Re: Autism/Asperger syndrome
Hello Jim, It is nice to know someone else can relate to some of the same things I experience. I has Asperger Syndrome. This has limited me in life so much it is more than humiliating. I know if I could take certain medications my life would be very different and I would be very productive in the work force but since I have deadly allergic reactions to these and many other meds I cannot use them and it prevents me from "being all that I can be" with no sarcasm intended.
Thank you for sharing you are also and Aspie. I can't right now but I do plan to look at your website.
Jen
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- Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:56:54 -0500 (EST)
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- Jim Sinclair <jisincla@...>
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- Autism/Asperger syndrome
Reading backlogged mail again... Wow. I had already noticed, years ago, that asexuality seemed to be more common in autistic people than in the general population (either that, or autistic people are just more likely to *acknowledge* being asexual). Now to come to a group for asexual people and find so many fellow autistics here... amazing!
I'd like to invite interested list members to check out Autism Network International at www.ani.ac. Maybe even consider coming to our 2004 retreat. Last year there was an evening discussion by and for GLBT autistic people. I would LOVE to have enough asexual autistic people in attendance to have a session like that!
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
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Re: Fwd: International Asexuality Meetup Day
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E-mail it to me and I'll put it up
Re: Secret Mars Lander picture
This picture is one NASA doesn't want the general public to see, but was leaked to the Internet by an unknown source.
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/glenn62/mars.jpg
Is this for real? It looks comical..IMO.
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This picture is one NASA doesn't want the general public to see, but was leaked to the Internet by an unknown source.
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/glenn62/mars.jpg
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Secret Mars Lander picture
Is this for real? It looks comical..IMO.
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kilraven62 said:This picture is one NASA doesn't want the general public to see, but was leaked to the Internet by an unknown source.
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/glenn62/mars.jpg
Is this for real? It looks comical..IMO.
?????
Not real, it's just comical...a joke.
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi tlshell@... / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] asperger's, psychotherapists, and asexuality
I have read with interest the comments of those of you with Asperger's Syndrome or are Highly Sensitive to stimuli. Ya'll have highlighted a major theory of the autism spectrum disorders- that such persons have difficulty handling large amounts of stimulation. When I was an undergrad psych major, I had to do some research on this topic.
I also note, in relation to the introverts topic, that one possible biological basis of the introvert/extrovert distinction is again the amount of stimulation the person is able to handle, or rather, the ideal amount for that person. There's a part of the brainstem called the reticular activating system that in part regulates overall arousal levels and how much stimulation gets to other parts of the brain from the incoming nerves. Introverts' RAS allow more stimulation to get through, thus they need less stimulation. Extroverts' RAS allow less stimulation to get through, thus they need more stimulation. At least that is one possible theory.
Sexual activity and attraction is, as far as I understand, highly sensual and arousing. Perhaps a reason those of you who are introverts or have Asperger's Syndrome identify as asexual is that you can't tolerate the amount of stimulation that sexual activity brings. Just a thought.
I actually have had good experiences with therapists with regard to my current asexual orientation. In fact they stated that there is a percentage of people who have the low end of the sexual desire bell curve. So it's "normal" (pun intended). This leads me to think that there probably has been some literature out there in the journals if the therapists have been thus enlightened, but I haven't had the time yet to search PsychInfo (psychological abstracts database) to check it out.
Btw Annie's Mailbox recently had a column on a 51 year old man who asks if asexuality is normal and that he has always been that way. They advised him to have his hormones checked out. I wrote to them about AVEN and us...
--Julie
Sexual activity and attraction is, as far as I understand, highly sensual and arousing. Perhaps a reason those of you who are introverts or have Asperger's Syndrome identify as asexual is that you can't tolerate the amount of stimulation that sexual activity brings.
Well, let's think about that....
I have autistic sensory sensitivities. Specifically, I have *extreme* auditory sensitivities. It's hard for me to tolerate the excessive auditory stimulation of loud noise.
I still have a sense of hearing.
Because my hearing is so sensitive, I often get a lot *more* meaning out of sounds than do other people with less auditory sensitivity.
There are many things that I *like* to hear, like my favorite music.
Occasionally (usually when I'm overwhelmed by stimuli that I do *not* like and did *not* choose, and need to clear out and reset my sensory processing) I even enjoy listening to my favorite music played *loudly*.
I also have visual processing difficulties, such that I don't like bright light, and I have trouble recognizing people and things visually.
I still have a sense of vision.
It doesn't *always* hurt to experience visual stimulation. It can feel very good to see colors that I like.
And I also have extreme tactile sensitivity. I do not, in general, like to be touched, because it feels very intense and requires a lot of processing for me to be able to focus and understand what's going on with the touching. This is too distracting to be able to do when there are competing demands on my attention, or when I'm simply tired and don't have the energy to process touch.
I still have a sense of touch.
I still get a *tremendous* amount of meaning from my sense of touch.
There are things that feel *good* to touch. I can enjoy feeling different textures and shapes of objects. I can enjoy feeling life pulsing through the body of an animal I touch. And when there's a human in my life that I'm comfortable having physical contact with, it can be an amazing, awe-inspiring way to connect.
So I think, if my disinclincation to engage in sexual activities were just a matter of sensory sensitivity, then I would just require less physical stimulation to experience the same sexual response that most people get from more-intense ("louder") activities. It would probably be like my sense of hearing or of touch: I would be very responsive to a low level of stimulation, and a "normal" level of stimulation could be overwhelming. But I would still have sexual feelings, just as I still experience pleasure from my auditory sense, even if I need stimulation at a lower volume.
But the fact is, I do not have sexual feelings or responses. I don't feel sexually aroused at *any* level of exposure to things that are supposed to be sexually stimulating. I don't have a need to avoid excessive levels of sexual arousal to prevent overload. I just don't get sexually aroused *at all*.
It seems to me that this is the exact *opposite* of an oversensitivity. It's a NON-sensitivity. It's like the difference between auditory sensitivities like mine, and being profoundly deaf. A deaf person doesn't "identify as deaf" because xe can't tolerate the amount of stimulation that hearing brings. A deaf person is deaf becasue *no* amount of stimulation will result in hearing. The person simply does not have the mechanical or the neural connections to experience that form of stimulation.
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Gender Equity
Wow Cijay, Where is Edmonton? I mean what state? Gosh this sounds wonderful. I dress for comfort too. I have NEVER worn things for esthetics. Of course I sort of stuck out and my family has tried to get me to change more so in this area but I don't think this would go very far. I don't use make-up and hate the crap too. In the last year I did find women's pants that are obviously women's that are very comfortable. So I do have a color selection of the same style since they fulfill my comfort priority. I use comfy tennis shoes that do NOT become narrow at the end of the foot and so on.
Jen
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- "Cijay" <cijaym@...>
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- Re: Gender Equity
I guess it's different everywhere, here in Edmonton, you'd pretty much have to wear a wedding dress on your shopping errands before anyone would even look twice at what you're wearing. Then again, we're not exactly the fashion capitol of the world. Here, overall unless it's someone extremely vain, people dress for comfort/practicality over aesthetics. Being as women's clothing are less comfortable, more expensive, higher maintenance than men's or unisex, the trend is men's style clothing. If we're going through the hystorical timeline, you may want to have a look at the lace & frilly blouses, pantaloons and knee socks men once wore. I don't know why that fashion trend changed but I'm comfortable saying it was for comfort.
Don't forget too, the trend for many years (until the early 70s here) was that guys at work/school could dress however they wanted, women HAD to wear skirts/dresses. HAD TO. It can be -40 here in the winter - not often but it does happen. Women HAD TO wear dresses, shitty little ginky shoes and stockings. It progressed in the work place to they could wear pants but it HAD TO be a pantsuit. No co-ordinates, the pieces had to be purchased as a set. I can bet you a pair of frozen legs/toes that it wasn't a women who thought up that rule. So, why wouldn't we want to wear what WAS once men's clothes (but what ARE now unisex) and why would men WANT to wear nylon, fortrelle and clicky-ticky high heel shoes? Why would they WANT to pay 3 times the price for 1/2 the material?
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I use comfy tennis shoes that do NOT become narrow at the end of the foot and so on.
Yeah, what's the deal with women's shoes? Human feet are narrowest at the heel, then get wider toward the toes. Most women's shoes are narrow at the heel, wider in the middle, and then narrow again at the toes. They are not shaped like human feet, they are shaped like canoes! My feet are too small to wear men's shoes, so I have a choice between children's shoes (size 4) or women's (should be size 6, but I usually need a 7 just to have room for my feet to git in *before* the narrowing in front). Children's shoes are MUCH more comfortable and reasonable!
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] MBTI
Hmm, if no extroverts are asexuals, this could be a pretty big revelation. I mean, theoretically, why should it be impossible for a person who's not interested in sex to otherwise be extremely sociable? It seems to imply that the whole point of extroverted behavior is sexual. I suppose if I had the need for constant sex and the confidence to back it up, I'd have been more extroverted. But I don't see the need. But then, I'm also very HSP myself, and I doubt there are many extroverted HSP's out there. :p If there's any reason why I'd say I'm not wildly sexual, it would be my HSP personality traits. Though, there's nothing in HSP that would make so many people actually uninterested in either sex in any way (though this extreme doesn't apply to me).
tlshell@c... said:On , lisettelisapisa said:What I was wondering is if anyone has done personality typing, specifically the Myers-Briggs (MBTI), and, if so, what was the result? I am an INFP/INTP hybrid. I am trying to find out if personality type correlates with asexuality.
INTJ here. We have been discussing whether or not introverts have a tendency to be assexual. My thought is that maybe all asexuals are introverts, but not all introverts are asexual.
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi tlshell@c... / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
Hmm, if no extroverts are asexuals, this could be a pretty big revelation. I mean, theoretically, why should it be impossible for a person who's not interested in sex to otherwise be extremely sociable?
It's not impossible. I know at least one such person (extroverted and asexual).
There's no way to draw any conclusions about correlation of personality type with asexuality by surveying only members of an asexuality group on the Internet. Say we find out that X% of members of this group are introverts. First of all, we don't know what percent of sexual people are introverts, so we don't know if being introverted is more or less prevalent in asexual than in sexual people. Second (and I think more relevant), we're only hearing from asexual people who are active in an Internet group. It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Gender Equity
On , jmnoble@... said:I use comfy tennis shoes that do NOT become narrow at the end of the foot and so on.
Yeah, what's the deal with women's shoes? Human feet are narrowest at the heel, then get wider toward the toes. Most women's shoes are narrow at the heel, wider in the middle, and then narrow again at the toes. They are not shaped like human feet, they are shaped like canoes! My feet are too small to wear men's shoes, so I have a choice between children's shoes (size 4) or women's (should be size 6, but I usually need a 7 just to have room for my feet to git in *before* the narrowing in front). Children's shoes are MUCH more comfortable and reasonable!
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
On , jmnoble@... said:I use comfy tennis shoes that do NOT become narrow at the end of the foot and so on.
Yeah, what's the deal with women's shoes? Human feet are narrowest at the heel, then get wider toward the toes. Most women's shoes are narrow at the heel, wider in the middle, and then narrow again at the toes. They are not shaped like human feet, they are shaped like canoes! My feet are too small to wear men's shoes, so I have a choice between children's shoes (size 4) or women's (should be size 6, but I usually need a 7 just to have room for my feet to git in *before* the narrowing in front). Children's shoes are MUCH more comfortable and reasonable!
I've got really wide feet *and* a high instep, so I feel over the years I've learned a bit about shoes that might help here. (I only buy men's shoes because women's shoes are so small.)
First, if you want to get shoes with wide toes, look for "moc toe" styles, "moc" is short for "moccasin" and usually means a wider, flatter toe style. Secondly, a few brand name suggestions. Birkas have a reputation for wide, comfortable shoe styles. If you like sandals, Tevas are very nice, and in my experience, they last a long time. And finally, I recommend mail-order or Internet to find a better choice of sizes. Local stores stock what sells best, and those of us with odd size feet are either going to pay extra to local stores that cater to us, or find better prices elsewhere.
Therese Shellabarger - tlshell@... Q: What do you call a computer without an OS? A: Secure
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] MBTI
On , Steven said:Hmm, if no extroverts are asexuals, this could be a pretty big revelation. I mean, theoretically, why should it be impossible for a person who's not interested in sex to otherwise be extremely sociable?
It's not impossible. I know at least one such person (extroverted and asexual).
There's no way to draw any conclusions about correlation of personality type with asexuality by surveying only members of an asexuality group on the Internet. Say we find out that X% of members of this group are introverts. First of all, we don't know what percent of sexual people are introverts, so we don't know if being introverted is more or less prevalent in asexual than in sexual people. Second (and I think more relevant), we're only hearing from asexual people who are active in an Internet group. It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
<G> Very good point!
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi tlshell@... / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] MBTI
On , Jim Sinclair said:It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
<G> Very good point!
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi tlshell@... / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
On , Jim Sinclair said:It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
<G> Very good point!
This is true. In the real world, in North America, extraverts outnumber introverts 3 to 1. But in online dating sites, introverts outnumber extroverts 2 to 1.
glenn
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] MBTI
tlshell@c... said:On , Jim Sinclair said:It's a plausible hypothesis that people who spend a lot of time interacting with others online, as opposed to face-to-face, might be more prone to introversion than people who are too busy with FTF interaction to spend much time online.
<G> Very good point!
This is true. In the real world, in North America, extraverts outnumber introverts 3 to 1. But in online dating sites, introverts outnumber extroverts 2 to 1.
glenn
<<This is true. In the real world, in North America, extraverts outnumber introverts 3 to 1. But in online dating sites, introverts outnumber extroverts 2 to 1.>>
Yeah... thats one reason why I gave up on dating sites.. they never work.
New Member...hello!!
Hello everyone!
I can't believe I found this group. I've looked on line before for anything dealing with asexuality and couldn't find much. AND I was not sure if I fit in that catagory, but I kind felt I did.
I hope you don't mind if I give you a short version of who I am and why I am looking for like minded people?
I'm 55. I'm female and the mother of 2...getting pragnent has little to do with enjoying sex. :-/ My children are grown. My daughter has a mental handicap and will probably live me till we are both old and grey. My son tries to take care of us, he's 35. I'm disabled too, but physically,with 2 forms of arthritis. We live in a little ozark town that is known as a very nice tourist distination in NW Arkansas. Eureka Springs...it's a beautiful little town ...I'll send a link. Anyway...I've not always been as I am today.
In my youth I was considered beautiful enough to be a model and was asked at least twice to take part in beauty contests. I had long natural blond hair and big emerald green eyes, and a figure that was so hour glass, it was hard to find cloths, back in the day of Twiggy bodies. :-) And of course I had the men buzzing around like flies...but I simply didn't feel right...I had no real sexual interest in them. Later in life, I thought maybe I was gay, because I could feel as close to women as I could to men, yet, I found not sexual interest there either. I just happen to enjoy all kinds of people. And I can be attracted to people, of both sexes, but I don't want to carry it to a sexual level. It just doesn't interest me. AS life progressed some things occurred that REALLY turned me off to the idea, it felt to me like sex and the attitudes there of, hurt several people I loved. I have been married 3 times, and alas, all ended because I simply could not be as sexual as was required. Luckly, I have remained friends with my last husband and he still comes to visit and he's helped me financially through my disability problems. He seems to understand, if not relate to my way of being. I am quite happy, actually. The kids and I do many neat things, and have a lot of fun. I have hobbies and friends. And a strong spiritual nature, but not perticularly religous. Sometimes I miss a companion, but have pretty much given up on that because all companions, of either sex, seem to want to be involved sexually.
Does this fit the pattern of most of you? Or do I belong in another group? :-) I am anxious to hear from you all! thanks Linda BB
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] MBTI
kilraven62 said:<<This is true. In the real world, in North America, extraverts outnumber introverts 3 to 1. But in online dating sites, introverts outnumber extroverts 2 to 1.>>
Yeah... thats one reason why I gave up on dating sites.. they never work.
kilraven62 said:<<This is true. In the real world, in North America, extraverts outnumber introverts 3 to 1. But in online dating sites, introverts outnumber extroverts 2 to 1.>>
Yeah... thats one reason why I gave up on dating sites.. they never work.
They work well for some people. I have a few friends who have done well with dating sites. Including one who found his wife through an online site -- they've been married five years now and are still quite happy. Ultimately, I guess, it all depends on what you're looking for, I suppose. But the fact that introverts outnumber extraverts 2 to 1 on the online dating sites is a *good* thing, if one is also an introvert (like me). (Not that I spend time on the dating sites myself. I prefer to remain single.)
glenn
hello I'm new to the group
I am a female in my 40's. I have been married because I wanted to have a family. I never had any desire for sex. I am now single. I enjoy old movies and TV shows, nature and animals, reading, acting, good conversation, spending time with people I love. I live in New York state. I am so happy to have found this group. Now I know that I am not wierd or mentally ill. I don't need to be fixed or set up with the right man. I am very loving. I just don't want sex. I am quite happy that way.
meetup
just thought you'd all like to know that there is a way that some of us asexuals can meet each other in person. www.meetup. com sets up meetings for all sorts of groups of differing interests. They do have asexuals groups in many cities. It is not a dating group but that doesn't mean one won't meet that special someone. You might make some good friends. It isn't meant to take the place of yahoo groups like this either. It's nice to actually sit and talk with a person who feels the same as you do and isn't trying to get you into bed or find a mate for you.
Re: Religion and Asexuality
Ok, i have a question. Can you be religious and asexual? Are any of you religious?
I believe you can. I have a very strong faith and am not planning on giving it up.
Ok, i have a question. Can you be religious and asexual? Are any of you religious?
I believe you can. I have a very strong faith and am not planning on giving it up.
I am asexual and a Christian. I have never read anything in the Bible that says one must have a sex drive. I am not committing any sin by not having and not wanting sex. Go ahead and be who you are.
Re: The National Organization of Asexual
Sadly none exists as of yet. I'm looking to build one, if people are interested, no doubt we can cook up things to do. Asexuality as its thought of now is a pretty new concept, one which has independently emerged in alot of people (including you) and is still developing. I'm a bit of an asexual theorist (I run AVEN)and I have ideas as to why asexuality is thought about (or not thought about) the way it is. Its great to hear from you , keep posting! I'm still working on my manifesto, of sorts...
Sadly none exists as of yet. I'm looking to build one, if people are interested, no doubt we can cook up things to do. Asexuality as its thought of now is a pretty new concept, one which has independently emerged in alot of people (including you) and is still developing. I'm a bit of an asexual theorist (I run AVEN)and I have ideas as to why asexuality is thought about (or not thought about) the way it is. Its great to hear from you , keep posting! I'm still working on my manifesto, of sorts...
One thing that might help is if people were to give the geographical location they live in. We'd need to find a neutral area or perhaps have several venues. I would love to meet others like me. I'll start. I live in NY state about an hour from Niagara Falls and 7 hours from NYC.
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: carbohydrates
On , kilraven62 said:I suppose one can go low-carb using soy-based protein products instead of meat, but what would be the point? Better off to eat the real thing -- it's better for you. :)
No it's not, it's got too much of the bad kind of fat and there's now the issue of "Mad Cow" to worry about. I'm glad I don't eat meat as all that stuff is moot to me.
There's a bazillion Asians, Buddhists, Seventh Day Adventists and Vegans who can tell you that a vegetarian diet is an excellent one.
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi tlshell@... / http://tlshell.cnc.net/
There's a bazillion Asians, Buddhists, Seventh Day Adventists and Vegans who can tell you that a vegetarian diet is an excellent one.
Yep. Here's one right here. :-)
I don't think much of this low-carb craze, anyway. Seems to me that cholesterol is a much greater health risk than carbohydrates.
Jim Sinclair jisincla@... (asexual intersexed autistic Jewish vegan)
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: carbohydrates
tlshell@c... said:On , kilraven62 said:I suppose one can go low-carb using soy-based protein products instead of meat, but what would be the point? Better off to eat the real thing -- it's better for you. :)
No it's not, it's got too much of the bad kind of fat and there's now the issue of "Mad Cow" to worry about. I'm glad I don't eat meat as all that stuff is moot to me.
The worst kind of fats are the artificial "trans-fatty acids" found in margarine and some cooking oils. Truth is, animal fat is much better for you than some people would have us believe.
As for the issue of "mad cow", one cow found in Washington State and the media is screaming like it's the new Black Death plague. There is one fortunate side-effect, the price of beef has gone down. I've been buying huge quantities of the low-priced beef and storing it in my freezer.
There's a bazillion Asians, Buddhists, Seventh Day Adventists and Vegans who can tell you that a vegetarian diet is an excellent one.
Most Asians are not vegetarians. They may eat poultry and fish instead of beef and pork, but they are not vegetarians. And only certain sects of Buddhism are vegetarian -- the majority are not. I don't know any Seventh Day Adventists, so I can't comment there... but most vegans I've met look like they're severely malnourished. I do know some healthy vegetarians, but most of that can be attributed to the fact that they avoid junk food as much as they avoid meat.
Also keep in mind that the natural human diet consists of meat, nuts, berries, and roots. (Plus eggs when they're in season.) Our caveman ancestors were most certainly not vegetarians. The diet they ate bore little resemblance to the standard North American diet today.
Meat is good. I eat large amounts of it. Since I started doing so, I've lost well over 100 pounds, my blood pressure is down, my triglycerides are down, my cholesterol is down... quite the opposite of what you'd expect if your anti-meat propaganda was true, no? :)
glenn carnivore and proud of it
but most vegans I've met look like they're severely malnourished.
In that case, they're probably just cutting out animal products without taking the trouble to learn how to design a balanced vegan diet. It's really not hard to do. But it does require paying attention to getting enough protein, vitamin B12, etc.
Also keep in mind that the natural human diet consists of meat, nuts, berries, and roots. (Plus eggs when they're in season.) Our caveman ancestors were most certainly not vegetarians. The diet they ate bore little resemblance to the standard North American diet today.
Right--for one thing, they ate a lot LESS meat than is in the standard North American diet today. They only ate meat if they'd had a successful hunt. That didn't happen every day.
Meat is good. I eat large amounts of it. Since I started doing so, I've lost well over 100 pounds, my blood pressure is down, my triglycerides are down, my cholesterol is down... quite the opposite of what you'd expect if your anti-meat propaganda was true, no? :)
How can you be sure that all those benefits are from eating meat, and not from cutting out *other* things (like junk food)?
In any case, my reasons for being vegan have to do with not wanting to be part of inflicting misery and death on animals. Sure, I acknowledge that I could incorporate meat into my diet, and still have a balanced healthy diet that would be good for me. But it would *not* be good for the animals that would be killed to feed me. And since I don't *need* to have meat in order to have a balanced healthy diet that is good for me (and, by the way, tasty and satisfying--I am a good cook!), I choose the balanced, healthy, good-for-me diet that does not involve killing.
Jim Sinclair jisincla@...
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: carbohydrates
Cijay said:Are 7th Day Adventists vegetarian? There's my new thing I've learned today. I'm very loyal to learning a new thing every day.
According to sources, about one-third to one-half of Seventh Day Adventists are vegetarians. So while it would technically not be accurate to say 7DA's are vegetarians, it would appear that vegetarianismis much more prevalant among 7DA's than among most other Christian denominations. I have no idea why.
Some fun reading: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/vegemyths1.html
glenn
Some fun reading: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/vegemyths1.html
Fun reading, all right. According to that web site, I'm already dead. :-)
Jim Sinclair jisincla@... (vegan and alive)
Re: hello I'm new to the group
I am a female in my 40's. I have been married because I wanted to have a family. I never had any desire for sex. I am now single. I enjoy old movies and TV shows, nature and animals, reading, acting, good conversation, spending time with people I love. I live in New York state. I am so happy to have found this group. Now I know that I am not wierd or mentally ill. I don't need to be fixed or set up with the right man. I am very loving. I just don't want sex. I am quite happy that way.
I am a female in my 40's. I have been married because I wanted to have a family. I never had any desire for sex. I am now single. I enjoy old movies and TV shows, nature and animals, reading, acting, good conversation, spending time with people I love. I live in New York state. I am so happy to have found this group. Now I know that I am not wierd or mentally ill. I don't need to be fixed or set up with the right man. I am very loving. I just don't want sex. I am quite happy that way.
Welcome aboard. You almost sound like a female version of me. I am single, 41, and have a sex drive so low that I can ignore it most of the time. And I'm a big movie buff as well.
glenn
Re: The National Organization of Asexual
bloodyredcommie said:Sadly none exists as of yet. I'm looking to build one, if people are interested, no doubt we can cook up things to do. Asexuality as its thought of now is a pretty new concept, one which has independently emerged in alot of people (including you) and is still developing. I'm a bit of an asexual theorist (I run AVEN)and I have ideas as to why asexuality is thought about (or not thought about) the way it is. Its great to hear from you , keep posting! I'm still working on my manifesto, of sorts...
One thing that might help is if people were to give the geographical location they live in. We'd need to find a neutral area or perhaps have several venues. I would love to meet others like me. I'll start. I live in NY state about an hour from Niagara Falls and 7 hours from NYC.
One thing that might help is if people were to give the geographical location they live in. We'd need to find a neutral area or perhaps have several venues. I would love to meet others like me. I'll start. I live in NY state about an hour from Niagara Falls and 7 hours from NYC.
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. About six hours north of the Canada/US border (the state of Montana is on the other side of the border), almost due north of Salt Lake City. :)
Glenn