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Welcome to this site, Verji:

Well, I always thought that doctrinal Catholicism included: a) Chastity for the priesthood, and for nuns; b) Chastity outside of marriage; c) Abstinence except for purposes of procreation.

As for Baptists, Jews, Muslims and such, I am totally clueless.

Now if the Catholic doctrine is not consistent with asexuality, then I don't comprehend much. Also, Paul's dogma seems to be about the same as doctrinal Catholicism (Romans, Corinthians?). Having said that, I confess that I do not comprehend much about any of the big religions, especially when it comes to sex, prejudice, condemnation, punishment and war. I have always said that Jesus would never understand Christianity, as practiced today. But don't let me get into a rant here. I am not religious, and I don't claim to have much knowledge about the bible and such. Having said that, I seldom run into pious people who know as much about the bible as I do. What gives with that, I have not a clue. Are pious people semi-literate?

I wouldn't be surprised if many denominations believe that sex should be done whenever the husband desires.

I will keep repeating what I always maintain. There are at least as many men who are asexual (or asexual compatible) as there are women. If nothing else, look at the substantial number of homosexual men. Most of these men are unable to have sex with women because of that orientational thing. For example, most men and women are unable to have same-sex relations because of "orientation".

Queer men can make great mates for women.

Another "orientation" is the male "submissive." While there are many variations on "submissive" men, a common trait consists of men who are unable or unwilling to engage in intercourse. There are way more males who merely fantasize "power" sex than real guys who are unable to engage in a so-called vanilla relationship. A vanilla relationship (for many) is defined as, among other things, a relationship with little or no intercourse.

Now, someone tell me: Where are non-sexual women? I know that there are women in their teens and twenties who have little sex drive. It is kind of a biological thing I guess. It is natural birth control perhaps. Young men wanting a non-sexual relationship have lots to choose from. Supposedly, the older a woman gets, the more she desires sex. A dilemma for a man in his fifties is finding a woman who is not horny.

Hello! I'm new here.

In all my research on the internet with regard to asexuality, very little commentary is available from church/christian organizations about the matter. Asexuality seems to be what best describes my situation; I've only "discovered" the concept in the last week and it's really shed light on my particular sexuality (or, rather, lack thereof). Does anyone here know of any site where Christian asexuals in particular are addressed? The reason I ask is that there are "doctrinal" issues that come into play and I'm curious to see what other views are out there.

Cheers!

Verji

Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is: andersson_320@... (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

Nickie, you didn't say if you prefer men or women or does it matter? You didn't say what state you live in or if you are willing to replant yourself. LOL Lastly, you didn't say what age range you are most comfortable with in regards to a relationship.

I fit all of your descriptions but I am 48 rather than 31. I am also a woman.

Jen Northern California

Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is: andersson_320@... (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

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Hello Verji, I don't know all of the dogma stuff either but I can tell you that no matter what a church doctrine says and no matter what the bible says, it will not change the fact you are asexual just like it does not change one from being homosexual or heterosexual.

I happen to be a Christian but I am not a mainstream one because so many believe in a lot of hogwash in my opinion. One example is as someone mentioned that some churches believe a man as the husband should be able to get sex whenever he wants it. This is true in many churches. It's a just bunk but a lot of people believe it cuz someone said it and they found a scripture they twisted to their liking.

As far as the Catholic church goes they do believe in much of what the other person said. I think that was Fire-filie. They also believe a marriage should be consummated aka do the ugly bump which I am NOT willing to do. I assume that most reasonable Catholics and other Christians are fine with both people not wanting sex. Although, I don't think most can fathom this idea.

Jen

Hello! I'm new here.

In all my research on the internet with regard to asexuality, very little commentary is available from church/christian organizations about the matter. Asexuality seems to be what best describes my situation; I've only "discovered" the concept in the last week and it's really shed light on my particular sexuality (or, rather, lack thereof). Does anyone here know of any site where Christian asexuals in particular are addressed? The reason I ask is that there are "doctrinal" issues that come into play and I'm curious to see what other views are out there.

Cheers!

Verji

I just wanted to wish you good luck on your search. I am looking for a partner too. However I am a 50 year old woman so I would not be right for you. I hope you are able to find that special someone.

Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is:  andersson_320@...  (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

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Hi,

Jen, you answer your own questions very well.:) I live in Europe, and of course I'd prefer to spend the rest of my life here. But for the right person I guess I could move anywhere in the world. If anyone has questions for me, I expect them to send private messages and not public ones.

Laura, thanks. I wish you luck too. In fact, I think it's easier for you to find someone. Because men in their 50's are more likely to be impotent, for instance.

Nickie

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Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is: andersson_320@h... (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

I have a particular aversion to tonguing, even watching it on TV or movies. A nice, chaste kiss on the lips is okay but when people start sticking their tongues in each other's mouths it makes me want to puke!

Does anyone else have this disgust for tonguing?

Does anyone else have this disgust for tonguing?

I don't make a big deal of it, no.

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Laura, thanks. I wish you luck too. In fact, I think it's easier for you to find someone. Because men in their 50's are more likely to be impotent, for instance.

Nickie

I agree that there should be lots of men who would love to "partner" with Laura. I live way too far away. I wish that there was a similar woman in Missouri. The fact that viagra, cialis and all the rest of the impotence drugs are so popular is because men are desperate to satisfy the imperious demands for sex by women. Trust me, if word gets out that a woman, age fifty, wants a man who can't have sex then she will be overwhelmed with potential suitors. Laura, have you found no eligible men where you live?

Nickie, there are men who would fall in love with you also, if you get the word out. By the way, the British Isles seems to have lots of celibate lovers of both genders.

Nickie, when did I ask you a personal question? If you are super touchy, I just won't refer to you at all. That makes it simple.

Jen

nickieand said:

Hi,

Jen, you answer your own questions very well.:) I live in Europe, and of course I'd prefer to spend the rest of my life here. But for the right person I guess I could move anywhere in the world. If anyone has questions for me, I expect them to send private messages and not public ones.

Laura, thanks. I wish you luck too. In fact, I think it's easier for you to find someone. Because men in their 50's are more likely to be impotent, for instance.

Nickie

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Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is: andersson_320@h... (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

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Hi Laura, I'm 48 living in Northern California.

I've noticed everyone who is looking can't seem to find anyone near them.

Jen

I just wanted to wish you good luck on your search. I am looking for a partner too. However I am a 50 year old woman so I would not be right for you. I hope you are able to find that special someone.

Hello everyone,

I posted here a while ago. Since I got no replies I thought I'd try again. I hope someone will give me a chance.

I am looking for a partner, and I dream of a romantic, serious, loving relationship. Being asexual, that seems to be an impossible goal. It is extremely difficult to find other likeminded asexuals. But I still have hope.

I'm a 31 yo. female. My physical description is: Light brown hair, olive green eyes, tall, normal build. I don't smoke. I have many hobbies and interests, for instance pets, reading, computers, travelling, training (gym, jogging, swimming), plants, cars, animals etc. I am very flexible. So if it's important to you that we have common interests, then I'm sure we can find something we both like. I'm very cuddly and affectionate. So a relationship completely without physical contact is unthinkable for me. However I can of course adapt to a less affectionate partner. My other "inner qualities": Honest, kind, reliable, friendly, caring, supportive, serious, loyal, helpful, focused, straightforward. I appreciate if my partner has similar inner qualities.

My address is:  andersson_320@...  (Sometimes hotmail doesn't work. If you don't hear from me for a while, try mailing again).

I keep my fingers crossed that someone will write. Take care, Nickie.

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Mike, Absolutely!

I don't even want to see them smooth the lips on TV cuz I know they are all rumbled up down below their belt and they will next get those disgusting looks on their faces. PUKE! is right. It just makes me sick and ticks me off. I always flip the channel and use mute a lot too. I don't like commercials either. That's what mute was made for.

Jen

I have a particular aversion to tonguing, even watching it on TV or movies. A nice, chaste kiss on the lips is okay but when people start sticking their tongues in each other's mouths it makes me want to puke!

Does anyone else have this disgust for tonguing?

Mr. Fyre, I always forget your name and you rarely sign your emails. Grrr, I wish you would just sign your first name or a nickname you like.

Anyway, do you really think men in their 50's want a celibate partner? I've never had this experience from men or women in any age group. I'm tell'n ya they all want it. I mean it doesn't matter if they are a man or a woman. Most want to bump uglies and suck face.

"suck face" was in the movie "On Golden Pond" and it meant kissing.

Jen

--- In havenforthehumanamoeba "nickieand" wrote:

Laura, thanks. I wish you luck too. In fact, I think it's easier for you to find someone. Because men in their 50's are more likely to be impotent, for instance.

Nickie

I agree that there should be lots of men who would love to "partner" with Laura. I live way too far away. I wish that there was a similar woman in Missouri. The fact that viagra, cialis and all the rest of the impotence drugs are so popular is because men are desperate to satisfy the imperious demands for sex by women. Trust me, if word gets out that a woman, age fifty, wants a man who can't have sex then she will be overwhelmed with potential suitors. Laura, have you found no eligible men where you live?

Nickie, there are men who would fall in love with you also, if you get the word out. By the way, the British Isles seems to have lots of celibate lovers of both genders.

I'm a 24 year old male, soon to be 25. I was molested/raped when I was 13 years old by a stranger. This occurence was unfortunatly my first kiss, my first time to be intimate in any way with any one. As you can imagine it was very traumatic and while I have been able to lead a very happy, otherwise normal life, I have never been interested in sex. I have a hard time being intimate at all past hand-holding and hugging. I have come to accept this as who I am, but I can't seem to find any women who understand and are willing to put up with a guy who won't/can't be physically intimate. The first few dates are always great, then as the relationship progresses they expect more intimacy and I just can't give that to them. When I try to explain my situation it either makes them run away or think they can change me. I CAN'T CHANGE - this happened, this is who I am. I've tried therapy and even hypnosis. Anyway, other than the fact that I don't want sex I am a completely normal and nice guy. I want to get married. I want a family. I want to grow old with someone. I'm pretty good looking...no brad pitt, but I've turned a few heads. I'm physically fit...run 6 miles a day. I have my own house and co- own a business. I have a dog (bojangles) who is one of my best friends. I've been really blessed in life and I have everything I need except someone to share it with. I live in Tennessee and because of my work and family would not consider moving. If you are interested please drop me a line. bojanglesdad@...

Hi bojangles

You mentioned how you would like to get married to a women {in Canada you can also have a same-sex marriage as you have probably heard} and raise a family. I hope you can fulfill your dreams.

I am ,however, a gay man in case you didn't notice so I don't think Im who you are looking for.

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I'm a 24 year old male, soon to be 25. I was molested/raped when I was 13 years old by a stranger. This occurence was unfortunatly my first kiss, my first time to be intimate in any way with any one. As you can imagine it was very traumatic and while I have been able to lead a very happy, otherwise normal life, I have never been interested in sex. I have a hard time being intimate at all past hand-holding and hugging. I have come to accept this as who I am, but I can't seem to find any women who understand and are willing to put up with a guy who won't/can't be physically intimate. The first few dates are always great, then as the relationship progresses they expect more intimacy and I just can't give that to them. When I try to explain my situation it either makes them run away or think they can change me. I CAN'T CHANGE - this happened, this is who I am. I've tried therapy and even hypnosis. Anyway, other than the fact that I don't want sex I am a completely normal and nice guy. I want to get married. I want a family. I want to grow old with someone. I'm pretty good looking...no brad pitt, but I've turned a few heads. I'm physically fit...run 6 miles a day. I have my own house and co- own a business. I have a dog (bojangles) who is one of my best friends. I've been really blessed in life and I have everything I need except someone to share it with. I live in Tennessee and because of my work and family would not consider moving. If you are interested please drop me a line. bojanglesdad@...

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I am reading "Alexander the Conqueror" by Laura Foreman (Tehabi Press, 2004):

"Hepaestion was his name, and he and the prince had known each other since childhood. They were lovers, but the sexual aspect of their bond was almost incidental to the profound emotional tie that for both was lifelong...Like Philip, [Alexander's father] Alexander would be bisexual, though the son would skew more toward the homosexual end of the scale, to the extent that he was sexual at all. Alexander would always be extremely fastidious about physical intimacy, perhaps in reaction to Philip's goatish indulgence, or perhaps because it was just his nature. His interest in women was late blooming and tepid at best, and it took an extraodinary person of either sex to rouse his passions...'Sex and sleep alone make me conscious that I am mortal' Alexander once remarked. He did not much care for such reminders."

This makes me wonder if we could claim Alexander the Great as an asexual, someone who loves intimacy but has little use for sex.

This makes me wonder if we could claim Alexander the Great as an asexual, someone who loves intimacy but has little use for sex.

An interesting idea! So, we need to keep busy to stay out of trouble, huh? (-;

("trouble" = war)

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Hi there,

I am working on a programme about sexual identity as part of a documentary series for British television. If you are based in England, and are happy to talk about your experience, please send me an email - ibruusgaard@.... You are not committing yourself to anything by contacting me, and all calls and emails will be dealt with in strict confidence.

I would really appreciate your help and honest opinions.

With best wishes,

IdaB

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Asexuality and celibacy A recent British survey found that around 1% of people do not experience sexual attraction.1 An increasing number of people are identifying themselves as asexual and agitating for recognition of asexuality as a legitimate sexual orientation, in much the same way as homosexuality has become acknowledged when it was previously considered a mental disorder. Due to the small numbers of people identifying as asexual, there is a thriving online community. Not everyone who is celibate is asexual. Some who would not identify as asexual in the sense of the absence of sexual attraction choose celibacy or a period of abstinence. A period of celibacy may be a rewarding period, a time of renewal. Alternatively it may be the result of a life-long religious commitment. See also: Lack of sexual attraction may also be caused by health problems. Find Health resources here. Recommended readingA History of Celibacy: From Athena to Elizabeth I, Leonardo da Vinci, Florence Nightingale, Gandhi, and Cher by Elizabeth Abbott A fascinating and lively history of 3,000 years of celibacy. Elizabeth Abbott dispels the myths that celibacy is only a religious phenomenon. The book covers celibacy in the ancient world and in the major religions, the desire to conserve semen, the impact of celibacy on gender and of gender on celibacy, abstinence as contraception, the involuntary celibacy of widows and castrati, celibacy in response to shameful sexuality, celibacy caused by physical incapacity, celibacy in literature, and celibacy in the modern age as religious revival and response to sexually transmitted infections notably HIV/AIDS. Available from Amazon. Sensual Celibacy: The Sexy Woman's Guide to Using Abstinence for Recharging Your Spirit, Discovering Your Passions, Achieving Greater Intimacy in Your Next Relationship by Donna Marie Williams Donna Marie Williams encourages women to look at a self-determined period of celibacy as an opportunity to find space for themselves. From the back cover: "If you're ready to rethink your approach to relationships and reconnect with yourself, then let Sensual Celibacy guide you to a happier, healthier lifestyle." Available from Amazon. Boston Marriages: Romantic but Asexual Relationships Among Contemporary Lesbians by Esther D. Rothblum and Kathleen A. Brehony Rothblum and Brehony explore uncharted territory in this book, committed romantic relationships that are not sexual. This kind of relationship challenges the usual categories of friend versus lover. Available from Amazon. Confessions by Arthur Pekar Autobiography of an asexual/celibate man. Available from Amazon. Other resources Get A Life - No plans for the weekend? Find your activity partners on getalife.com.au (Australian site). AVEN - the Asexual Visibility and Education Network. Enter the AVEN Discussion Forum The Livejournal Asexuality Community The Abstinence Diaries Asexuality Meetup Groups More on lifestyle from the Sex and Gender Resource Relationships and Lifestyle main page Meeting people Heterosexuality Gay men Lesbians Bisexuality Polyamory Transgender

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SpongeBob is asexual, says creator

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SpongeBob SquarePants, the wacky cartoon character who sparked a gay alert warning by US Christian conservative groups, is neither gay nor straight.

He is asexual, says his creator.

At least two Christian activist groups said the innocent and hugely popular cartoon character SpongeBob and his best mate Patrick Starfish were being exploited to promote the acceptance of homosexuality.

SpongeBob's creator, Stephen Hillenburg, 43, said the allegations were far-fetched and his agenda did not go beyond fun and entertainment.

"It doesn't have anything to do with what we're trying to do," Hillenburg said today, two days before the Asian premiere of the SpongeBob SquarePants Movie in Singapore.

"We never intended them to be gay. I consider them to be almost asexual. We're just trying to be funny and this has got nothing to do with the show."

Naive SpongeBob, who lives in a pineapple under the Pacific Ocean, was "outed" by the US media in 2002 after reports that the Nickelodeon TV show and its merchandise were popular with gays.

Influential US radio evangelist James Dobson, among whose top political issues are opposition to same-sex marriage and abortion rights, said last week SpongeBob had been included in a "pro-homosexual video".

"Their inclusion of the reference to 'sexual identity' within their 'tolerance pledge' is not only unnecessary but it crosses a moral line," said Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family.

SpongeBob is one of the stars of a music video due to be sent to 61,000 US schools in March.

The makers - the nonprofit We Are Family Foundation - say the video is designed to encourage tolerance and diversity.

Hillenburg, a marine-science-teacher-turned-animator who lives in Hollywood and is married with a six-year-old son, says he thinks there are "more important issues to worry about".

"I really don't pay much attention to this."

Such allegations were common in the history of cartoon and children's entertainment, he said.

"Just think of 'Laurel and Hardy' or 'Ernie and Bert'," he said, referring to two popular American comic icons - the former from the 1930s and latter from the US television series Sesame Street.

In 1999, Britain's Teletubbies were cast into sexual controversy by a US religious leader who warned parents to be alert to subtle messages from Tinky Winky, one of the four androgynous characters, singled out for his purple colour and a triangular antenna on his head, both symbols of gay pride.

Nickelodeon, part of global media firm Viacom, has made 60 episodes since SpongeBob's birth in 1996 and is working on another 20.

It says the series is a big hit in Indonesia and has been translated into Hindi, Korean and Japanese.

Hillenburg, who produced and directed his first SpongeBob movie, has employed stars such as Alec Baldwin and Scarlett Johansson to voice some of the characters while Baywatch personality David Hasselhoff has made a non-cartoon appearance.

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Why is this suprising to anyone? Sea Sponges in real life are ALL asexual. So are jellyfish, sea cucumbers, and starfish - to name a few. Many, MANY oceanic invertabrates are asexual.

~Kt. <-- marine biologist

Why is this suprising to anyone? Sea Sponges in real life are ALL asexual. So are jellyfish, sea cucumbers, and starfish - to name a few. Many, MANY oceanic invertabrates are asexual.

I don't think the sexuality of sponges is the issue, the real issue is those wacky Christians! Don't they have a life? Better things to obsess over???

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Well...yes, the sexuality of sponges is not the issue. The sexuality of people is the issue. And sex is what most people obsess over. The fundamentalist, strict Christians (sorry there are good Christians too I am sure), and the fundamentalist, strict Muslims can't (or won't) think about much of anything except sex and violence.

On 30 Jan 2004, 23:24 +00:00, kweenkmatt@a... said:

Why is this suprising to anyone? Sea Sponges in real life are ALL asexual. So are jellyfish, sea cucumbers, and starfish - to name a few. Many, MANY oceanic invertabrates are asexual.

I don't think the sexuality of sponges is the issue, the real issue is those wacky Christians! Don't they have a life? Better things to obsess over???

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LGBT equal rights bill is reintroduced in Ohio House

by Eric Resnick

Columbus--A bill to protect gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Ohioans from discrimination has been introduced in the Ohio House.

House Bill 28 was introduced February 1 by State Rep. Dale Miller, a Democrat who represents Cleveland’s west side.

Miller also introduced a similar bill in 2003, the first such measure ever in the Statehouse. This bill is more comprehensive, he said, because it also applies to state boards and commissions.

The measure amends all sections of the Ohio Revised Code dealing with discrimination by adding “sexual orientation” wherever other protected classes such as race, religion, and national origin are currently listed.

“Sexual orientation” is defined as “heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality or transgenderism, whether actual or perceived.”

The bill would bar discrimination in employment, housing, selling and renting, credit, financial assistance, labor organizations and public accommodations such as restaurants and hotels.

Violations would be handled by the Ohio Civil Rights Commission, which is also directed to work with the Department of Education to teach students about sexual orientation discrimination.

The bill has ten co-sponsors in addition to Miller: Reps. Dixie Allen of Dayton, Peter Ujvagi of Toledo, Catherine Barrett of Cincinnati, Barbara Sykes of Akron, Mike Skindell of Lakewood, Dan Stewart of Columbus, Annie Key of Cleveland, Edna Brown of Toledo, Minority Leader Chris Redfern of Catawba Island Township and Assistant Minority Leader Joyce Beatty of Columbus. All are Democrats.

Allen, Ujvagi, Barrett, Skindell, Stewart, Redfern, and Beatty were the co-sponsors of the 2003 bill.

Miller said he’s pleased to have picked up three co-sponsors.

“After the publicity and the vote on the [marriage ban] amendment, I’m glad to see the increase,” said Miller. “It shows that there is still some support for fairness and equality.”

The 2003 bill got sponsor testimony in the State Government Committee, but went no further.

The current bill is assigned to the Civil and Commercial Law Committee, which is chaired by Republican Rep. Bill Seitz of Cincinnati.

Seitz sponsored the anti-gay “defense of marriage act” signed into law last year and attempted to persuade state senators to put the constitutional marriage ban amendment on the ballot on behalf of the Bush presidential campaign.

Rep. Todd Book of McDermott is the ranking Democrat on the committee. Joyce Beatty is the only committee member among the bill’s co-sponsors.

Miller said Seitz has said little about the bill.

“He’s given no indication that it will be heard,” said Miller, “but he’s given no indication to the contrary, either.”

Miller said he will push for proponent testimony in addition to sponsor testimony.

Miller said the timing of the bill is important.

“We’re going into budget hearings,” said Miller, “and the focus is going to be on economic improvement through more business activity.”

“I don’t think we can work on growing the economy until we say everyone is a participant and everyone is welcome,” said Miller. “People who work hard and play by the rules should share in the benefits. I see this as both a civil rights and an economic issue.”

State Sen. Dan Brady is also planning to reintroduce his Senate version of the measure, Miller said. Brady, a Cleveland Democrat, first introduced it in 2003. Miller added that Brady has no timetable in mind.

Brady is prohibited from serving past 2006 due to term limits. Miller has indicated he will seek that Senate seat.

Other states with similar anti-discrimination bills pending are Oregon, Maine, Colorado, Delaware, and Montana.

Currently, 15 states and the District of Columbia include sexual orientation in their equal rights laws. Five also include transgender people.

Eleven Ohio cities have similar ordinances, covering a sixth of the state’s population.

© 2005 KWIR Publications

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