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Hi Mary, Well, I think I would need to barrow one for a while so I would know if I could keep the doggie.

My parents have a Westie named Scooter. He is so sweet, full of love and excitement. He protects my cat from even a mouse. He is so funny. I pet him and stuff but only if he has had a recent bath because the dog odor sets off asthma even though I love dogs.

I buy Scooter toys that he loves to carry around, pet him and sometimes walk him. He has to either stay in the hallway or on the floor if he is in my room when I sleep there. He want to get in bed with me and my kitties. He likes those cats more than me.

Anyway, when I buy a house this will surely be a consideration.

Jen

Hey Jen, Have you thought of a poodle? They're suppose to be o.k. for people with allergies. Mary

I love sleeping with my 2 cats. If I could sleep with a dog without it causing Asthma, I would invite a dog too. If I had my way, I'd sleep with lots of different animals. I adore animals to no end.

Jen

In a message dated 6/18/2006 11:46:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rmarysplace@... writes: Not me!!!! ;-) I love 1 or 2 snoring dog bodies in bed with me every morning. Any other animal people on this list? Mary ME! ME! ME! My dogs share my bed with me every night. My girl likes to sleep at the foot of the bed and my boy likes to be spooned. They are such babies! I love then so much. They bring me incredible joy and laughter.

Linda

Yep Mary, I'm making changes in my place right now so I can go to there classes and be ready for a home study.

Jen

Jen if you want children you'd better get going. Some states have an age requirement on adoption.

Please cut and paste the questions, erase my answers, and add your own.

1. Name: Jen

2. Gender: Female

3. Age: 50

4. Location: Northern California

5. Have you ever had sex? This is an invasive question that I would not ask anyone.

6. What gender, if any, are you attracted to? Doesn't matter. I need to feel comfortable and safe.

7. Are you open about your non-sexuality? Actually at my age I now fall into the "old maid" category. Also at my age there are many widows out there so there is little interest in my peer group. Hey the older you get the easier it is. Also, sometimes if the topic arises.

8. Are you married? No & never have been. For most people this requires bumping uglies and I refuse.

9. Do you have or want children? I want children or at least one child. I would prefer a male child. I am considering doing fost-adopt or at least applying for it.

10. Do you like ANY human contact? You bet! I don't want to be touched by just anyone though. I do love affection or shared human contact that has NO sexual content. I even enjoy romance but not sexual energy.

11. Are you bothered by your asexuality? No not personally but it does bother me that it has caused me to be alone most of the time.

12. Do you date? ROFL, no. I wouldn't date anyone unless I was sure I was dating a non-sexual.

13. Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex? It could be ruled in or out and it doesn't really matter to me. I'm simply not having a bump ugly session in my life. Yuck! I'd much rather do something pleasurable and fun.

1.  Name:  Brenda

2.  Gender:  Female

3.  Age:  54

4.  Location:  Hi Desert of Calfiornia

5.  Have you ever had sex?  Yes married 3 times..was a have to but seldom.

6.  What gender, if any, are you attracted to?  both

7.  Are you open about your non-sexuality?  If it comes up.

8.  Are you married?  And if not, do you ever want to get married?  I am widowed, do not want to marry again

9.  Do you have or want children?  ........nope, never wanted any

10.  Do you like ANY human contact?  I do. but I really need to feel close to the person to hug etc..no sex

11.  Are you bothered by your asexuality?  No

12.  Do you date?  No

13.  Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex?  Yes, part now is menopause but when I was younger there was no cause of why I wasn't interested..just performed in marriage what was expected of me.

1. Name: K

2. Gender: Male (finally) I had a birth defect - female reproductive organs - and have transitioned to male.

3. Age: 25

4. Location: Bernalillo, NM

5. Have you ever had sex? Yes. I have been in a relationship with a man (not asexual) for three years, and had sex after about a year or a year and a half. I was hoping that it would be great and I would finally realize what everyone was on about. No such luck.

6. What gender, if any, are you attracted to? I am attracted to people, not genders. I find a real attraction for people and want to be around them and spend time with them; it's just not a physical attraction. I can also see aesthetic beauty in both men and women.

7. Are you open about your non-sexuality? I don't bring it up unless it is a very personal and private conversation. Because of my aforementioned relationship, most people consider me gay. I don't really mind, but I'm a bit uncomfortable knowing that they have the wrong idea about me.

8. Are you married? And if not, do you ever want to get married? I am not married. I doubt I will ever be married. I don't particularly want to be married, but if it is important to someone else, I probably wouldn't refuse if we were already in a long-term committed relationship.

9. Do you have or want children? I want my sisters and friends to have children, so I can be the fun uncle who plays with them and teaches them fun stuff and then SENDS THEM HOME.

10. Do you like ANY human contact? Yes. I like hugs and don't have a major problem with kisses. I'm not overly fond of them, but I figure it's the least I can do.

11. Are you bothered by your asexuality? I've decided that it makes my life a lot less confusing, and anything that can do that is all right in my book.

12. Do you date? Not really. My partner and I never really "dated," we just hung out as friends until we realized that it had developed farther. Before that I had only dated one person, and only for a couple of weeks.

1. Name: K

2. Gender: Male (finally) I had a birth defect - female reproductive organs - and have transitioned to male.

3. Age: 25

4. Location: Bernalillo, NM

5. Have you ever had sex? Yes. I have been in a relationship with a man (not asexual) for three years, and had sex after about a year or a year and a half. I was hoping that it would be great and I would finally realize what everyone was on about. No such luck.

6. What gender, if any, are you attracted to? I am attracted to people, not genders. I find a real attraction for people and want to be around them and spend time with them; it's just not a physical attraction. I can also see aesthetic beauty in both men and women.

7. Are you open about your non-sexuality? I don't bring it up unless it is a very personal and private conversation. Because of my aforementioned relationship, most people consider me gay. I don't really mind, but I'm a bit uncomfortable knowing that they have the wrong idea about me.

8. Are you married? And if not, do you ever want to get married? I am not married. I doubt I will ever be married. I don't particularly want to be married, but if it is important to someone else, I probably wouldn't refuse if we were already in a long-term committed relationship.

9. Do you have or want children? I want my sisters and friends to have children, so I can be the fun uncle who plays with them and teaches them fun stuff and then SENDS THEM HOME.

10. Do you like ANY human contact? Yes. I like hugs and don't have a major problem with kisses. I'm not overly fond of them, but I figure it's the least I can do.

11. Are you bothered by your asexuality? I've decided that it makes my life a lot less confusing, and anything that can do that is all right in my book.

12. Do you date? Not really. My partner and I never really "dated," we just hung out as friends until we realized that it had developed farther. Before that I had only dated one person, and only for a couple of weeks.

13. Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex? I don't have enough information to rule out anything at this point.

lol Jim!!! What breed dogs do you have? I don't allow my cats in bed with me simply because one of them feels the urge in the middle of the night to knead me. Not welcome. Sure wish I could train him though to give me a back rub. Mary

Not me!!!! ;-) I love 1 or 2 snoring dog bodies in bed with me every morning. Any other animal people on this list?

Meeeeee! I had to get a queen-size futon so there would still be a little bit of room for me, after the three large dogs (now up to four) and anywhere from 1-4 cats made themselves comfortable. (I don't like them snoring, though. When they snore, I shove them until they stop.) Human housemates would be able to offer some things that dogs and cat's can't, such as intelligent conversation and help with housework. But I wouldn't want to share my bed or even my bedroom with a human.

Jim Sinclair jisincla@... www.jimsinclair.org

Hi Brenda,

I noticed your e-mail address, petguardian, and thought that you must be an animal rights activist. I am also. Are you involved with IDA and their pet guardian campaign. I was very active here in Colorado several years ago. Saw your post on the human ameoba. I have been celibate for 20 years.

karen

1. Name: Brenda

2. Gender: Female

3. Age: 54

4. Location: Hi Desert of Calfiornia

5. Have you ever had sex? Yes married 3 times..was a have to but seldom.

6. What gender, if any, are you attracted to? both

7. Are you open about your non-sexuality? If it comes up.

8. Are you married? And if not, do you ever want to get married? I am widowed, do not want to marry again

9. Do you have or want children? ........nope, never wanted any

10. Do you like ANY human contact? I do. but I really need to feel close to the person to hug etc..no sex

11. Are you bothered by your asexuality? No

12. Do you date? No

13. Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex? Yes, part now is menopause but when I was younger there was no cause of why I wasn't interested..just performed in marriage what was expected of me.

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I could regale you with tales, but I won't. This is my big extended family. Lucky for me, my daughter likes them too.

It sounds like you and I have similar adoption philosophies. I have had several cats, and except for the first one, they were all "found" cats that needed help. My second cat was "Bandit," he was a Siamese kitten and when I found him, he was living semi-wild with one eye gouged out, I have no idea how. After luring him over several days with food and then trapping him in a homemade box trap, I took him to a vet and had him sewed up (and incidentally, fixed), and then took him home. He was great, very gentle and full of personality, as anyone who's had a Siamese would know! My next cat was also a kitten, her name was "Possum" and she was a tabby, but her ears were big, and she had a crooked tail, hence the name. I thought that maybe she might be part Siamese, too, because of her refined manner and appearance. When I got her, she was found by a friend in a garbage bin, very sick, suffering from worms, possibly also a cold or worse. I couldn't afford a vet then, so I used advice in a book from Rodale Press "Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats" on what kind of diet and care to use, and was able to nurse her to robust health. Sadly, I had to give her up when I moved to attend college in Washington, DC. I've not gotten any more animals since then because (a) none have showed up at my door and (b) I'm not currently really able to have pets where I live, but I think when I move to the midwest one of these days, I would like to live where pets are allowed and I have time to devote to their care and training. I have a niece who wants to be a vet, so I'm thinking she might be able to help me out a little now and then.

BTW, if anyone wants a copy of that book I had, I highly recommend it -- the third edition is out and you can get it at Amazon.com, or use their information to find it at your favorite bookstore: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157954973X/sr=8-4/qid=1150773695

Therese Shellabarger - Civis Mundi - tlshell@...

Hey Jen, Have you thought of a poodle? They're suppose to be o.k. for people with allergies. Mary

I thought it was shorthaired animals, poodles have a lot of hair?

I have animal allergies too, but if it's one cat and shorthaired with a thin coat, I can tolerate it well enough. I'm not experienced enough with dogs to know what they're like to live with, but I would be willing (one day) to experiment with a small terrier and a shorthaired cat because I would like a dog to walk for our mutual exercise, and to let me know when people are nearby. I'd probably install a good air cleaner, HEPA perhaps, to keep the dander from getting out of hand, and use other dust control measures as well.

Some interesting stuff to read about dog allergies: http://allergies.about.com/od/dogs/

Apparently, carpeting and stuffed animals can increase your allergic reactions to dogs, even if you don't have pets.

Another tip on the above page says that bathing a dog once a week dramatically cuts down on dander problems.

And then there's "sneeze-free dog breeds" (book) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0793805716 (I have no idea how good it is, but it's more than a list of breeds. It also gives tips for making the home kinder for allergy sufferers.)

Therese Shellabarger - Civis Mundi - tlshell@...

Thanks Therese. Hey I was a caecerian birth so I may not have that problem at all. Hmmmm Are you in the medical field that you know this? Mary

No, I am not a medical professional, nor do I need to be. And you wouldn't ask me if you had visited the link I gave you. The CDC states this in their material:

"The types of HPV that infect the genital area are spread primarily through genital contact. Most HPV infections have no signs or symptoms; therefore, most infected persons are unaware they are infected, yet they can transmit the virus to a sex partner. Rarely, a pregnant woman can pass HPV to her baby during vaginal delivery. A baby that is exposed to HPV very rarely develops warts in the throat or voice box."

----- Original Message ----- From: To: [email protected] Sent: 6/18/2006 7:50:30 PM Subject: Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Pap Test

On 17 Jun 2005, 22:42 +00:00, Dennis Hawkins said:

Hi Mary,

I'm not exactly a female virgin, but isn't the pap test used to detect cervical cancer? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they discovered that cervical cancer was caused by an STD virus. They now have a vaccine. But since you are not sexually active, you shouldn't need to worry about STD's or the virus or cervical cancer or pap smears. I would seriously recommend that you see a different doctor. One that knows a little bit more about cervical cancer and the vaccine.

A baby can be exposed to HPV from their mother during vaginal birth, so even women with no exposure to sexual intercourse should still have Pap tests on occasion, but it might not be needed as often. I would suggest a frank discussion with your doctor. Also, a female doctor might be motivated to do a better job than a male doctor, since they understand on a personal level what it's like. If there's a gay clinic in your area, they might have someone more knowledgeable about your particular needs because some lesbians are likely to have similar physiological reactions.

The CDC has a lot of information on HPV here: http://www.cdc.gov/STD/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm

Therese Shellabarger - Civis Mundi - tlshell@...

lol Jim!!! What breed dogs do you have?

A German shepherd-black Lab mix (14 1/2 years old and receiving home hospice care--I'm not sure how much time he has left); a yellow Lab or Lab mix; and two short-haired pointy-eared black and tan mutts. Dobermutts, maybe. One has such long legs and dramatic swoop from chest to belly that I think she might have some Greyhound or whippet or other sight hound in her. She also has a rounded forehead and slightly shorter snout than the other Dobermutt (they are not biologically related), suggesting possibly some Rottweiler ancestry.

I don't allow my cats in bed with me simply because one of them feels the urge in the middle of the night to knead me. Not welcome. Sure wish I could train him though to give me a back rub.

Try lying on your stomach when he gets in a kneading mood. I've gotten a few unexpected backrubs from cats by falling asleep on my stomach.

I usually like the feel of cat-kneading, unless their claws are in need of trimming.

Jim Sinclair jisincla@... www.jimsinclair.org

Hi,

For years I wanted to open a bed and breakfast. I was finally able to seriously think about it when some appropriate homes came on the market. Then I thought about the romantic setting and then...OH NO I don't want people having sex in my home came to mind. Yuck.

Why don't you do what the Gay people do, they open Bed & Breakfasts for their community, you can do the same.

I don't know much about B&B since I've never used one, but seems to me that something akin to a Dude Ranch (which I've at least read more about) where there are nonsexual "friendship" activities to keep people from getting bored?

Therese Shellabarger - Civis Mundi - [email protected]

Hi Jim, Yeah, it's just having some human life around me. I like some it along with my own time to myself so I'm not overwhelmed.

Jen

On 18 Jun 2006, J said:

I do want a roommate or a couple of them. I prefer someone to just be around the house so to speak. I don't want anyone sleeping in the same room with me. This can keep me awake. Sleeping in the same bed with someone who is NONsexual is still very uncomfortable. My preference is for roomies I enjoy a lot, am relaxed around, unobtrusive and sleep in their own room. Oh yeah, quiet too.

Sounds good to me! :-)

Jim Sinclair jisincla@... www.jimsinclair.org

Mary, I read the entire email. LOL

I have 2 cats and they are married. LOL

Jen

This is great!!! I am so happy to meet so many animal lovers on this list. You know, I think one reason we all have been "shy" with one another is the fact we have been programed by society that there is something wrong with us.... that we are not "normal". I think we should relax and get to know one another and the only area of conversation not be centered around our not having sex, That's taken for granted just by joining this group. Let's just start talking about other things and see what else we have in common. I am excited to find so many animal lovers on this list. If, y'all don't mind I'll add a bit more to this conversation and introduce my animal family. I have 3 dogs, 6 cats (3 foster), 2 rats, a 3-toed turtle, and a parakeet. Let me introduce my dogs first. Teddy Bear a.k.a. Theodore wandered in about 11 years ago and never left. He looks like a 30 pound Llasa Apso/poodle mix. Next we have Shyla, a black/white American Pit Bull Terrier I rescued from t! he pound over a year ago at the age of 2. She's a real clown and keeps me laughing with her clownish antics. We have a bedtime ritual. I usually just sleep with a sheet over me. She jumps in bed ahead of me and goes into a frenzy arranging the sheet into a pile and then flops down on it. I have to climb over her and take back my sheet over her objections. She then grunps at me and finally lays down with a sigh rump to rump with me. My third dog, Margaret is a 18 month black lab that I am raising for a guide dog school. She's not allowed in bed with me so she sleeps on her dog mattress bedside my bed. In hot weather she'll sometimes lay on the floor under my bed. I am going to really miss her rumbling snore when she goes back to the school for training. Next are my cats. I have Tab who is a red head about 18 years old and very demanding at dinner time. Then we have Allyn a grey/white who is my buddy. When I'm on the couch he's beside me. He's my miracle cat because when he was little he was attacked by a dog and it was very touchy for his survival for a few days. After that we didn't know if he'd ever walk again as all the tendons in his back end were torn. He is alive though and he does walk. He just can't scratch his ears. My last cat is Grover who really doesn't like to be touched or petted but does like to sit on the couch and chew my hair on occasion. My rats are Margaret Jr. and Buck. They live in separate cages so I don't have additional rats. Both are sweet little loves. My turtle is Rikki who I've had since a hatchling and will be 4 this summer. Last but not least is Angel my parakeet who is very tame and loves to sit on my shoulder and talk to me. If you've read this far and aren't bored to death maybe you want to talk about your animal family. Mary

A long time ago, I lived in a different part of town always nursing animals back to health so they could be adopted. I even had 7 kittens with the cord on their little bellies. I had a set of boys who's cord was still pink. Later, I had a litter of 5 with older cords, dark brown so maybe they were a week old or something like that. I loved them all and they all got new homes.

Jen

Mary,

Since we are all animal lovers, I think that's a great idea. I have 5 cats. It's not because I'm a "cat person" it's because cats fit my lifestyle. I like all animals in general. I started with only 2 cats and it has grown over time.

Slothie is the oldest, he's 12 yrs old and moved with me from NJ to WI and is the size of a llasa apso. When I moved, I had 2 cats, Slothie and Anubis. Anubis ( Nubie for short ) didn't travel very well, he suffered a stroke that left him paralized from the mid-back down. After exhausting both conventional medical treatment as well as accupuncture, he needed to be put down. He was my baby and I miss him greatly.

They say everything happens for a reason and soon I adopted Lola, an albino tabby, from the local shelter. Lola is a diva who will tell you exactly what is on her mind. I had Lola no more than a month when the vet I use, called to tell me that she had some special needs kittens, who had some physical disabilities and since I worked so tirelessly caring for Nubie, would I be interested in fostering them?

Needless to say, I said yes. Soon Binks and Bebe came to live with us. They were barely 3 weeks old (both fit into the bottom of an old velvet hat I had) Bebe was born with a club foot and Binks was so malnurished that they didn't expect him to survive. They both are jet black and looked just like Nubie. My heart melted and my foster "children" soon became a part of my family. Both are now 2 yrs old and I'm happy to report that Bebe gets around famously. Runs, jumps and climbs. Guess no one bothered to tell her she was handicapped.

The last addition to our family came in the form of Bo, a cuddly little grey and white tabby. Like Bebe and Binks, he was 3 weeks old and picked up in the parking lot of a local store. He had a dislocated kneecap and his tail was broken in 4 places. After sternly informing the animal control officer who dropped him off to my house, that I wouldn't be accepting anymore at this time, I took Bo into my heart.

He's just had his 1st birthday and is a little scamp. While all of my kids like sleeping with me (thank goodness for queen sized beds) Bo is the only one who likes sleeping beneath the covers. I laughingly refer to him as "He who walks between the sheets"

I could regale you with tales, but I won't. This is my big extended family. Lucky for me, my daughter likes them too.

This is great!!! I am so happy to meet so many animal lovers on this list. You know, I think one reason we all have been "shy" with one another is the fact we have been programed by society that there is something wrong with us.... that we are not "normal". I think we should relax and get to know one another and the only area of conversation not be centered around our not having sex, That's taken for granted just by joining this group. Let's just start talking about other things and see what else we have in common. I am excited to find so many animal lovers on this list. If, y'all don't mind I'll add a bit more to this conversation and introduce my animal family. I have 3 dogs, 6 cats (3 foster), 2 rats, a 3-toed turtle, and a parakeet. Let me introduce my dogs first. Teddy Bear a.k.a. Theodore wandered in about 11 years ago and never left. He looks like a 30 pound Llasa Apso/poodle mix. Next we have Shyla, a black/white American Pit Bull Terrier I rescued from t! he pound over a year ago at the age of 2. She's a real clown and keeps me laughing with her clownish antics. We have a bedtime ritual. I usually just sleep with a sheet over me. She jumps in bed ahead of me and goes into a frenzy arranging the sheet into a pile and then flops down on it. I have to climb over her and take back my sheet over her objections. She then grunps at me and finally lays down with a sigh rump to rump with me. My third dog, Margaret is a 18 month black lab that I am raising for a guide dog school. She's not allowed in bed with me so she sleeps on her dog mattress bedside my bed. In hot weather she'll sometimes lay on the floor under my bed. I am going to really miss her rumbling snore when she goes back to the school for training. Next are my cats. I have Tab who is a red head about 18 years old and very demanding at dinner time. Then we have Allyn a grey/white who is my buddy. When I'm on the couch he's beside me. He's my miracle cat because when he was little he was attacked by a dog and it was very touchy for his survival for a few days. After that we didn't know if he'd ever walk again as all the tendons in his back end were torn. He is alive though and he does walk. He just can't scratch his ears. My last cat is Grover who really doesn't like to be touched or petted but does like to sit on the couch and chew my hair on occasion. My rats are Margaret Jr. and Buck. They live in separate cages so I don't have additional rats. Both are sweet little loves. My turtle is Rikki who I've had since a hatchling and will be 4 this summer. Last but not least is Angel my parakeet who is very tame and loves to sit on my shoulder and talk to me. If you've read this far and aren't bored to death maybe you want to talk about your animal family. Mary

lol Jim!!! What breed dogs do you have?

A German shepherd-black Lab mix (14 1/2 years old and receiving home hospice care--I'm not sure how much time he has left); a yellow Lab or Lab mix; and two short-haired pointy-eared black and tan mutts. Dobermutts, maybe. One has such long legs and dramatic swoop from chest to belly that I think she might have some Greyhound or whippet or other sight hound in her. She also has a rounded forehead and slightly shorter snout than the other Dobermutt (they are not biologically related), suggesting possibly some Rottweiler ancestry.

I don't allow my cats in bed with me simply because one of them feels the urge in the middle of the night to knead me. Not welcome. Sure wish I could train him though to give me a back rub.

Try lying on your stomach when he gets in a kneading mood. I've gotten a few unexpected backrubs from cats by falling asleep on my stomach.

I usually like the feel of cat-kneading, unless their claws are in need of trimming.

Jim Sinclair jisincla@... www.jimsinclair.org

I have a yorkshire terrier. They don't shed and don't bother my asthma or allergies at all.

On 18 Jun 2005, 15:46 +00:00, Mary Reese said:

Hey Jen, Have you thought of a poodle? They're suppose to be o.k. for people with allergies. Mary

I thought it was shorthaired animals, poodles have a lot of hair?

I have animal allergies too, but if it's one cat and shorthaired with a thin coat, I can tolerate it well enough. I'm not experienced enough with dogs to know what they're like to live with, but I would be willing (one day) to experiment with a small terrier and a shorthaired cat because I would like a dog to walk for our mutual exercise, and to let me know when people are nearby. I'd probably install a good air cleaner, HEPA perhaps, to keep the dander from getting out of hand, and use other dust control measures as well.

Some interesting stuff to read about dog allergies: http://allergies.about.com/od/dogs/

Apparently, carpeting and stuffed animals can increase your allergic reactions to dogs, even if you don't have pets.

Another tip on the above page says that bathing a dog once a week dramatically cuts down on dander problems.

And then there's "sneeze-free dog breeds" (book) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0793805716 (I have no idea how good it is, but it's more than a list of breeds. It also gives tips for making the home kinder for allergy sufferers.)

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Therese Shellabarger - Civis Mundi - tlshell@...

Trying this again.

1.  Name:  Lori

2.  Gender:  Female

3.  Age:  41

4.  Location:  Northern Illinois

5.  Have you ever had sex?  Yes. I always had a low sex drive when I was younger, but it wasn't until recently that I realized that I am asexual.

6.  What gender, if any, are you attracted to?  male

7.  Are you open about your non-sexuality?  Not really. It's been such a short time since I discovered that asexuality is a sexual orientation, that I'm still trying to process the whole thing.

8.  Are you married?  And if not, do you ever want to get married?    I've been married for 17 years. However, if I were to find myself unmarried for some reason I certainly wouldn't pursue it again.

9.  Do you have or want children? Two teenage boys.

10.  Do you like ANY human contact?  Yes, but I'm not an overly touchy feely person.

11.  Are you bothered by your asexuality?  Yes. I guess part of me would still like to understand what the fuss is all about. I also feel bad for my husband, who really doesn't know what's going on with me, and probably deserves someone who can fulfill his needs on a regular basis. If it wasn't for him, I don't think it would bother me too much though.

12.  Do you date?  No, I don't think my husband would like it.

13.  Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex?  There are no psychological reasons whatsoever for my disinterest. I suppose there could be a medical reason but I have no interest in pursuing that route.

When I was a kid, about puberty, all the kids in my school my age were starting to have sexual attractions toward each other. However, in my case, I stayed the same as I was before puberty and did not develop sexual desires toward anybody, yet I still developed secondary sex characteristics such as a deeper voice, chest hair and such.

I was wondering if this description applies to anyone else out there as well? Is this the time when you discovered that you were different?

Dennis.

Yes Dennis, I fit this description. I did not develop as much as other gals and at a much slower rate but even with full development the sexual attraction did not arrive. This was very confusing to me. I didn't know what any of them were talking about. None of their behavior made any sense to me. I couldn't figure out why they were all changing in such odd ways with their clothing and strange behavior. They all seemed quite senseless to me.

I know I was surely the outcast because I didn't act, feel or dress like them.

Jen

When I was a kid, about puberty, all the kids in my school my age were starting to have sexual attractions toward each other. However, in my case, I stayed the same as I was before puberty and did not develop sexual desires toward anybody, yet I still developed secondary sex characteristics such as a deeper voice, chest hair and such.

I was wondering if this description applies to anyone else out there as well? Is this the time when you discovered that you were different?

Dennis.

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You know, I never thought about it, but now that it's brought up... yeah. My body changed and my mind just stayed the same... I figured I should be interested in guys, or even girls, thinking they were hot or something, and I just never did. I was like a kid; sex was a really uncomfortable and embarrassing topic for me. Heh. I've never thought about it before. ^^

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Yeah, I can speak to that. I always just thought I was a late-bloomer (I was with everything else) and that it would come, but I turn 21 next week, and I figure that that's not it. I feel exactly the same about sex and other related subjects as I did when I was 10. So I totally see where you're coming from.

Kristen

When I was a kid, about puberty, all the kids in my school my age were starting to have sexual attractions toward each other. However, in my case, I stayed the same as I was before puberty and did not develop sexual desires toward anybody, yet I still developed secondary sex characteristics such as a deeper voice, chest hair and such.

I was wondering if this description applies to anyone else out there as well? Is this the time when you discovered that you were different?

Dennis.

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1.  Name:  >   2.  Gender:  Female

3.  Age:  48>   4.  Location:  Florida

5.  Have you ever had sex?  Yes married 20 years

6.  What gender, if any, are you attracted to?  men>   7.  Are you open about your non-sexuality?  If it comes up.

8.  Are you married?  And if not, do you ever want to get married?  I am seperated . do not want to marry again

9.  Do you have or want children?  yes, 2, the highlight of my life and worth having sex for.

10.  Do you like ANY human contact?  I do. but I really need to feel close to the person to hug etc..no sex

11.  Are you bothered by your asexuality?  No

12.  Do you date?  No

13.  Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex?  Yes, part now is menopause but when I was younger there was no cause of why I wasn't interested..just performed in marriage what was expected of me.

I was wondering if this description applies to anyone else out there as well? Is this the time when you discovered that you were different?

I noticed that everyone around me was acting crazy, and that I wasn't interested in joining in. I admit it puzzled me why they were going so ga-ga over dating, and suspected that maybe they were exaggerating things to make it sound like they were doing a lot more than they really were. It seemed like a stupid popularity contest.

And then in my private life, I was horrified when my mom assured me that "if you get pregnant, don't be afraid to tell us." Nothing about how to _avoid_ getting pregnant, which would have been a great relief!!! So I was not at all willing to go out with any boys for fear that something stupid would happen to me.

Sometimes, parents can be _so_ clueless...

Oh, yeah, I had sex ed in 7th grade, but most of it was so technical and boring, it went right over my head or through one ear and out the other. I wasn't enlightened about how to avoid getting pregnant, but I did get to watch some anti-drug movies that in retrospect, were pretty damn funny in a retro-classical way.

I found a couple of more intellectual females to hang out with at lunch time, which made me feel I wasn't the only one who wasn't concerned with all the hoopla.

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1. Name: LeslieKay

2. Gender: Female

3. Age: 53

4. Location: the great northwest

5. Have you ever had sex? yes

6. What gender, if any, are you attracted to? male

7. Are you open about your non-sexuality? Absolutely!

8. Are you married? yes

9. Do you have or want children? Oh I tried 5 times and only one live for 5 months after that I gave up.

10. Do you like ANY human contact? Yes. In terms of *physical* human contact, I can appreciate contact such as hugging and cuddling (fully clothed!), if I have enough of an emotional bond with the person.

11. Are you bothered by your asexuality? no Cause I'm a CNA a Nurse's aide and with what I know and seen cause worked in alot of places and in priavte care in places most people could not handle.

That you would wash your hands everytime you turn around.

12. Do you date? No.

13. Have you ruled out possible medical/psychological reasons for your disinterest in sex? No just good old fashion common sense of right and wrong.