Re: So....um...Yeah....how about this weather?
So....How is everyones weather? It's been windy here. I've been sneezing my head off. ACHOOO! Oh, ok. I really don't care about how the weather is....Just needed a change of Post title....something that was not entitled... "RE: There is a Reason to Post".
But I guess It is a big issue....I'm kinda a blunt guy, so here is my two cents. RESPECT. One thing that has continually gone down the drain in society today is respect for others opinions and values. There is no right or wrong...just diffrent perspectives. However, I do belive there is a "Better and Worse". I think things would be a whole lot better if people didn't attatch labels or judgements. The entire western way of thought is based around making judgements, setting values, making labels, and ranking things. The Human race is quickly destroying our precious world because of how the western view is set up. Because we seperate ourselves from nature, We think we are better and dominate nature. We think it is ours to squander. We need a change in how we think about the world we live in. I just hope that we make this change before the reprocussions of our actions hit us full on. It's gonna be sad the those years....but if our race keeps overpopulating....IT WILL OCCUR. lots of people will die....and i don't want to see that.....OK! This is WoMBaT not answering the question and just ranting again.....what was the question? Oh yeah, I think that to get the respect of others, you have to respect them first. Maybe the reason you feel lonely is because you fail to respect people because they have sex. Try accepting people for the way they are and people will respect you for the way you are. My father used to say something to me and I only fully understood it about 6 months ago when I finally accepted that I was asexual...."You have to be OK with yourself before you can be OK with others". I think that is a very true statement. I don't know notaquicky but I'm sure that he knows himself and knows if he is ok with himself or not. But I just want to raise that point.
God, I said i was supposed to be blunt, not a damn minister giving the sunday sermon.....geesh.
I'm done.
I have got to go do some SERIOUS work....god, I hate the last week of school...SO BUSY!!! but soon....soon i will get to chill out with friends and just have fun for a few days. Not to mention see The Matrix Reloaded. YOWZA! thats a funny expression to say...YOWZA! I wonder how it came about? Anybody know? hahaha....anyway. I have got to get a going...
B C N U
WoMBaT
So....How is everyones weather? It's been windy here. I've been sneezing my head off. ACHOOO! Oh, ok. I really don't care about how the weather is....Just needed a change of Post title .... something that was not entitled... "RE: There is a Reason to Post".
Just my own $0.02 worth... I find the sight of people expressing affection (eg, kissing in public) to be about as interesting as watching people eating. In other words, no big deal one way or another. Part and parcel of my own indifference to sex.
glenn
Hello...
Hi all... I don't think I've posted here in a while, so I thought I'd reintroduce again. I'm male, 31 yrs, and still looking for that partner who understands that relationships and even marriages don't need sex to be happy. Although, I believe I'm probably not really "asexual", but this group is a lot closer to what I am than any other relationship group I've ever seen: I don't _need_ sex, and, if all other aspects of a good relationship were in place I'm sure I'd never need to or miss "it". However, I do identify myself as straight, and I, despite not looking for sex, can in fact be attracted to women on physical and emotional levels (which I do not really care to express through sex, but rather some other form of intimacy that will undoubtedly be dependent on my partner to a strong degree). I'm probably doubly cursed anyway in that, as I always say up front, I am somewhat disabled (using crutches to get around long distances out doors). Not like its a big deal to me but it seems to be to others (including, oddly, asexuals) ;) Well anyway, anyone (especially women, who understand what I'm talking about) want to chat feel free to contact me, though I might not read this group all the time, so yahoo messenger is easily the best way to say hi.
Re: Date military singles in your area.
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Excellent Dating Site Exclusively for Military singles And Their Admirers.
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"I said I wanted to go out with Maureen, not go out with a Marine!"
Feh. Why do *we* get ads like this?
Glenn
Off to kansas....again
Well....Schools out.
I think I did fairly well. Got an A in everything but Quantum Chemistry and Chemical dynamics....which is a big word for QUANUM MECHANICS OF THE ELECTRON. but anyway.....SIGH. I can finally relax a little bit.
well...not quite yet.
I have to pack everything up and drive the 16 hour drive back to my mothers house. Last time i will be there as a dependant. whoa. it is isn't it. man....i need to stay in touch with my two best friends more....this is the last summer....hell.....i have an internship next summer and the summer after that I am going to go into the peace corps or drift for a couple years...then grad school.....god. kinda weird....but anyway...the entire point of this is that i will probebly be away for about a month. So....not that it makes much difference....just had some extra time and felt like posting.
Oh yeah, if anyone is truely sickened or offended by watching sex, i would not recommend that they watch the matrix reloaded. Has some serious sex scenes....it was kinda funny watching everyone else watch the movie. some were enjoying it....others were like "uh....uh....uh..." But anyway...it was kinda funny. Sex is a really ackward thing isn't it....i mean....just think of it....its almost kinda funny. It is this weird quricky act to boot. Yet it rests at the center of the human pyche for a good majority of people. I just find that interesting.
But overall the movie...WAS FRIKIN AWSOME....i mean, A with a capital A, AWSOME...I wasn't really expecting what the movie gave me....really got me this time. I mean I was good with the first movie...didn't find it at all to mentally challenging....but this one i had to pull some serious brain mussles for. Now i am left with sorting out the little details and the motives.....geesh.
But, other than the sex scene, I say its a great movie....no wait....Its a great movie even with the sex scene.....i have to keep in mind that the movie was made with the idea that you would find some kind of intrest in that scene.....So....i guess i didn't see the movie as i was intended to see it....but none the less....it was good....i am rambling on now....so i will shut up.
B C N U! (in about a month!)
WoMBaT
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Date military singles in your area.
<< I subscribe to 14 different groups, including the three that
I moderate... and this is the only one that gets ads like
this... or any other kind of dating ad. Not even the GLBT
(gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual) weight-loss group I'm in
gets this kind of stuff. >>
Alright, well, most groups I'm in get these ads, so it's not just this one.
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Date military singles in your area.
<< Feh. Why do *we* get ads like this? >>
Everyone does.
<< Feh. Why do *we* get ads like this? >>
Everyone does.
I subscribe to 14 different groups, including the three that I moderate... and this is the only one that gets ads like this... or any other kind of dating ad. Not even the GLBT (gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual) weight-loss group I'm in gets this kind of stuff.
BTW, I am in a GLBT weight loss group because I nominally identify as bisexual. A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Glenn
bisexual in theory, asexual in practice
pessimisticgrace@a... said:<< Feh. Why do *we* get ads like this? >>
Everyone does.
I subscribe to 14 different groups, including the three that I moderate... and this is the only one that gets ads like this... or any other kind of dating ad. Not even the GLBT (gay/lesbian/bisexual/transsexual) weight-loss group I'm in gets this kind of stuff.
BTW, I am in a GLBT weight loss group because I nominally identify as bisexual. A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Glenn
A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Yeah, well put. Sounds like something i wrote for my self-intro when i joined a GLBT list out of curiosity a long time ago - something about being bisexual or asexual depending on which way one looked at it. Though the jury is out as to whether i should perhaps consider myself pansexual or agendered instead. (As in, i'm indifferent to the sex & gender of the people i form relationships with.)
Or - as is usually the case - not bother myself too much with labels like that.
JC
(OT) Re: A question for you all
jcwoyzeck said:I'm assuming you mean to say your friend is an MTF (male-to-female) transsexual; by transsexual (for the sake of definitions) I mean having acute body and / or social dysphoria and undergoing treatment / operations to be able to live a normal life (socially and sexually) as a member of the opposite sex.
You assume correctly. Until a few years ago, Shauna was Shawn. She and I have been friends since last fall. We have similar tastes in movies, tv shows, and music; we're both sci-fi geeks. :) A couple of months ago, when we were talking about movies, she mentioned in passing a movie that she really liked. I mentioned that I have it on video, and dropped a hint that if she wanted maybe she could come over to my place sometime and watch it with me. (The movie is "UHF", starring Weird Al Yankovic, btw.)
So the next weekend, that's exactly what we did. And somewhere in the evening, she told me that she was a transsexual. I was floored, since I'd met a few other MTF transsexuals in the past and they all looked like guys in drag -- she does not.
We've done more "movie nights" since then. She says she has no interest in relationships right now (what with her reassignment surgery coming up in a few months), that what she really needs right now are good friends. So, what she and I have now is a close friendship. We go out together. But that's all. Which suits me fine, really.
There are others who are practically asexual until they begin to transition. And so I wonder if it is possible that this discomfort just gets translated into a sort of estrangement from your own genitals and a total lack of interest in sex. Affection and hugs and cuddles ok; just no sex.
So... if you don't think this represents any copping-out on your asexuality, I'd like to know: on a purely speculative basis, how many of you suppose you might possibly not be asexual IF you were born as the opposite sex, or with a body other than your own??
That certainly doesn't apply to me. I've never felt that I should have been born female.
And quite possibly these are two completely different things despite the occasional overlap. So of course there would be people for whom this totally doesn't apply - any reactions to this?]
I'd say these are two separate things that sometimes overlap.
Glenn
She says she has no interest in relationships right now (what with her reassignment surgery coming up in a few months), that what she really needs right now are good friends. So, what she and I have now is a close friendship. We go out together. But that's all. Which suits me fine, really.
This is wandering off-topic & I don't think anybody else would be interested in reading this, but I just wanted to say how much this sounds like the close friendship I have with Ben - formerly Sara - and the transition he's undergoing. Must say I've learnt more than I ever knew or thought about transsexuals since I got to know him last year. And above all everything about the situation I'm in suits me fine.
Hope Shauna's surgery goes well.
cheers, JC
Re: bisexual in theory, asexual in practice
A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Yeah, well put. Sounds like something i wrote for my self-intro when i joined a GLBT list out of curiosity a long time ago - something about being bisexual or asexual depending on which way one looked at it. Though the jury is out as to whether i should perhaps consider myself pansexual or agendered instead. (As in, i'm indifferent to the sex & gender of the people i form relationships with.)
Or - as is usually the case - not bother myself too much with labels like that.
JC
A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Yeah, well put. Sounds like something i wrote for my self-intro when i joined a GLBT list out of curiosity a long time ago - something about being bisexual or asexual depending on which way one looked at it. Though the jury is out as to whether i should perhaps consider myself pansexual or agendered instead. (As in, i'm indifferent to the sex & gender of the people i form relationships with.)
In the Real World, I identify myself as bisexual and leave it at that. But whenever sex gets discussed around me, I don't participate, and I myself do not express any interest in sex. I realize that if I'd publicly identify myself as asexual, people would either laugh or scoff at the idea; it's easier to identify as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Or - as is usually the case - not bother myself too much with labels like that.
Good point. Except many other people *do* bother with labels...
Glenn
Just to comment
Not too much time ago, I posted an email which said that "feeling attractive is important even if you are asexual"
This is a very feminine group, and this question has a total different meaning for people who are tired of being flirted - I know.
But I felt surprised with the apathy... no one disagreed?
Just to comment.
Re: bisexual in theory, asexual in practice
jcwoyzeck said:A good way to put it would be biseuxal in theory, asexual in practice; my own sex drive is so weak that there's no point in making a distinction. :-D
Yeah, well put. Sounds like something i wrote for my self-intro when i joined a GLBT list out of curiosity a long time ago - something about being bisexual or asexual depending on which way one looked at it. Though the jury is out as to whether i should perhaps consider myself pansexual or agendered instead. (As in, i'm indifferent to the sex & gender of the people i form relationships with.)
In the Real World, I identify myself as bisexual and leave it at that. But whenever sex gets discussed around me, I don't participate, and I myself do not express any interest in sex. I realize that if I'd publicly identify myself as asexual, people would either laugh or scoff at the idea; it's easier to identify as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Or - as is usually the case - not bother myself too much with labels like that.
Good point. Except many other people *do* bother with labels...
Glenn
In the Real World, I identify myself as bisexual and leave it at that. But whenever sex gets discussed around me, I don't participate, and I myself do not express any interest in sex. I realize that if I'd publicly identify myself as asexual, people would either laugh or scoff at the idea; it's easier to identify as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Am sure that can totally mystify people, given the very traditional & conservative assumption/misunderstanding in some circles that bisexuals are the most sexually promiscuous people... ;p
JC
Re: Just to comment
Not too much time ago, I posted an email which said that "feeling attractive is important even if you are asexual"
This is a very feminine group, and this question has a total different meaning for people who are tired of being flirted - I know.
But I felt surprised with the apathy... no one disagreed?
Just to comment.
Not too much time ago, I posted an email which said that "feeling attractive is important even if you are asexual"
This is a very feminine group, <snip>
What makes you say this? Just out of curiosity rather than taking issue with anything (you're welcome to that opinion, although personally I don't get the same impression of this group, after having lurked for a while).
JC
Re: bisexual in theory, asexual in practice
Glenn said:In the Real World, I identify myself as bisexual and leave it at that. But whenever sex gets discussed around me, I don't participate, and I myself do not express any interest in sex. I realize that if I'd publicly identify myself as asexual, people would either laugh or scoff at the idea; it's easier to identify as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Am sure that can totally mystify people, given the very traditional & conservative assumption/misunderstanding in some circles that bisexuals are the most sexually promiscuous people... ;p
JC
Glenn said:as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Am sure that can totally mystify people, given the very traditional & conservative assumption/misunderstanding in some circles that bisexuals are the most sexually promiscuous people... ;p
I get a certain amount of amusement value in being a walking contradiction. Like being bisexual and at the same time being uninterested in sex. Or being both an atheist and a political conservative. It drives people nuts. :)
Glenn
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: bisexual in theory, asexual in practice
Well Glen what drives me crazy is how religious fanatics have infected the American right with their version of morality. Many conservatives are atheist or agnostic.
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Glenn said:as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Am sure that can totally mystify people, given the very traditional & conservative assumption/misunderstanding in some circles that bisexuals are the most sexually promiscuous people... ;p
I get a certain amount of amusement value in being a walking contradiction. Like being bisexual and at the same time being uninterested in sex. Or being both an atheist and a political conservative. It drives people nuts. :)
Glenn
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Well Glen what drives me crazy is how religious fanatics have infected the American right with their version of morality. Many conservatives are atheist or agnostic.
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jcwoyzeck said:Glenn said:as bisexual and simply appear totally uninterested in sex.
Am sure that can totally mystify people, given the very traditional & conservative assumption/misunderstanding in some circles that bisexuals are the most sexually promiscuous people... ;p
I get a certain amount of amusement value in being a walking contradiction. Like being bisexual and at the same time being uninterested in sex. Or being both an atheist and a political conservative. It drives people nuts. :)
Glenn
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Well Glen what drives me crazy is how religious fanatics have infected the American right with their version of morality. Many conservatives are atheist or agnostic.
That's one thing I like about living in Canada... the Canadian population at large perceives the so-called "Religious Right" as part of the lunatic fringe, along with the anarchists, the greens, the communists, the Natural Law party, and the Marijuana Party (yes, we do have a party by that name... guess what their #1 issue is?).
Truth to tell, I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I'm not sure what that ultimately makes me, but I also hold a membership in the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada...
Glenn
desperatly seeking...
Hi to all of you, my name is alex and i am 27 years old male, and i am new here, as you can see, i found this group in my intention of finding some one who can understand me, sometimes i think i am alone and that i am the only one who think sex is not the most important in this live, in fact i have learned to live without sex, because i suffer from impotence, but i still have feeling and romantic sentations, so i am looking for a woman who want to share her live with me forever, i dont want to be alone anymore, because i know who live with me is gonna be happy forever, please replay, i accept any suggestions and answer...
my mail
subiluliuma@...
bye alex
asexual equivalents
Here's a question to ponder for those of you who are interested in non-sexual committed long term relationships (for instance, like a marriage without the sex): Most happy, monogamous sexual marriages have something that the couple will do together, that they simply won't do with others (at least not with out causing relationship problems) - namely, this is sex and making-out, in most of these relationships. Do any of you beleive there could be an equivalent in an asexual marriage to this? Something that an asexual couple would only do with each other, that if violated, would be much like "cheating" in a sexual relationship? This obviously isn't much of a question for those asexuals who do not bring relationships further than a friendship, but I'm sure there must be a few out there who are interested in the idea of a non-sexual "couple" - in which case I wonder if there are asexual equivalents to cheating. I'm sure I've got them myself.. maybe a certain level of affection I might expect to be kept within the couple... but then I have yet to be in a committed asexual relationship that goes beyond friendship.
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] asexual equivalents
<< On another note, I mentioned a looooong time ago that I was going to
publish a fairy tale for people who enjoy being single, like us. >>
I'm assuming you mean some of us. ;) I'd like to get married, without sex.
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] asexual equivalents
<< Most happy, monogamous sexual marriages have something that the
couple will do together, that they simply won't do with others (at
least not with out causing relationship problems) - namely, this is
sex and making-out, in most of these relationships. Do any of you
beleive there could be an equivalent in an asexual marriage to
this? Something that an asexual couple would only do with each
other, that if violated, would be much like "cheating" in a sexual
relationship? >>
Absolutely, I would cuddle and kiss and hug a partner. And stroke their hair and tell them I love them, etc.
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] asexual equivalents
I can't speak for others, but that has worked for us for many years now.
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<< Most happy, monogamous sexual marriages have something that the
couple will do together, that they simply won't do with others (at
least not with out causing relationship problems) - namely, this is
sex and making-out, in most of these relationships. Do any of you
beleive there could be an equivalent in an asexual marriage to
this? Something that an asexual couple would only do with each
other, that if violated, would be much like "cheating" in a sexual
relationship? >>
Absolutely, I would cuddle and kiss and hug a partner. And stroke their hair and tell them I love them, etc.
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I'm back....yet gone again
WOW! that was a lot of catching up to do.
That is an interesting topic.....Cheating in asexual relationships....very interesting. I would think that it would exist. I mean, I think asexuals take all the emphasise people put on sex and put it into romance. And i think that if you go around shoozing everybody, it would first of all mean that you are smooth as hell. 2) it would mean that you don't truely LOVE your partner. You should love someone for the person not just to have someone to shmooze with. If you go around and shmooze ( i love that word ) with everybody, it also shows that you don't respect your partner very much. So yeah, i do think its possible.
anyway. I am back in kansas....but now i am going to making a trip out west (alberqurice then lake havasu then las vegas) then i get to go for the final time to summer camp....even though i am 20, Camp bartle and the tribe still call me back there. it is also my cousins first time there....its kinda odd...my last, his first....i'm getting sentimental.
Anyway. Nice to hear all this discussion! Expect me to pop up again 2 days before the 5th harry potter book comes out. (19th).
Anyway....Keep up the talk, its fun to read them all.
B C N U!
WoMBaT
Hi I am new.
Hi, I am new to this group and of all the groups that I have researched and tried to find interesting I think I have finally found the one where I belong :) I am blue_alien because I feel blue a lot and for some reason having a sex life must not have been written in my life story. I don't feel like a female or a male so that must make me an "alien" so therefore the alien name. I found it interesting that there is actually an asexual "symbol" ie. the picture posted in this group. I have seen the ones for male, female, etc. etc. and someone actually sent me some kind of symbol on a chain as a free gift when I purchased a book from them from ebay lol. I wear it sometimes, don't know what it is but it looks cool. Anyway I have read every word of all the messages here and will continue to do so and will also post if that is ok. Thanks!!