Haven for the Human Amoeba

Yes, I would second this suggestion. The reason I did not appear, for which I apologize, was for technical difficulties. I gave up thinking it was a fire wall issue or something.

I will have to try the older version of Netscape, I didn't think of trying that. I don't use IE either. I'm on a Linux system.

Ok, Platonicpimp, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not so I'll risk looking like a fool. Will and Grace, it seems, is the prime examples out there of asexuality in the mass media (not directly, its an implied batman-robin type thing.) It is, after all, about a primary nonsexual relationship. Sexual relationships appear, come and go but the nonsexual relationship always seems to take precedence. This is something that they're always struggling with, how much are they going to let their relationship become like a marraige and how much are they going to hold out for some primary sexual relationship to come along? There have been some markedly asexual issues coming up in the mass media as of late, Will and Grace is one example (about the closest you can get to a sitcom about asexual people for a populous who doesn't know what asexuality is). There's a(rather crappy looking) movie called "Forty days and forty nights" scheduled to come out sometime soon which focuses pretty directly on nonsexual versus sexual intimacy. Either there are some closeted asexuals speckled around hollywood or the issue of asexuality is for some reason working itself into the social subconscious (it would explain the burst in asexual activity over the past year. See my article.) Can anyone think of any other examples? I don't watch that much TV...

"Queer as Folk" hinged around a nonsexual relationship (allbeit one with sexual tension)

"X-Files", for about as long as they could hold out before the fans beat down their door...

I read about the firewall issue as well. However, I have that Tiny Personal Firewall did not have a big problem with the Yahoo! Chat. I don't know if that is good or bad. Probably the later.

I did get IE working with Yahoo! Chat. I installed IE 5.0, and relucantly let Microsoft update it from the Internet. However, Yahoo! Chat now works with IE as well.

I tried using an old version of Netscape (4.77) and managed to connect. So next time is a go. That seems to be the best suggestion for people on "non-standard" platforms. Mozilla doesn't seem to be up to par with Java yet. I don't know about Netscape 6.x.

On the media conversation: I know I'm asking the wrong crowd, but is 40 days *really* considered that difficult of a task? It seems like an exaggeration to make a point.

I tried Netscape 6.2. It did not work at all. I received a JAR Error. In fact, I had Netscape 4.79 installed with Netscape 6.2. Version 4.79 did not work until I uninstalled 6.2

Netscape and Mozilla are based on the same fundamental program. So, assumingly, issues will be the same.

Yep. You are.

I have friends who can relate to 40 Days. They cannot go without a girl friend for more than 2 weeks. He is deseparate for the poon tang so he suffers through miserable relationships because of it. I don't understand sexuals at all.

Allan

Somehow I missed out on this 40 day thing. What the heck is that? I'm too lazy to go through all the messages! :o)

X.

Somehow I missed out on this 40 day thing. What the heck is that? I'm too lazy to go through all the messages! :o)

X.

"40 Days and 40 Nights" is a really stupid looking movie with Josh Hartnett that's coming out next month.

Here's some info:

<a href=http://us.imdb.com/Title?0243736 target=new>http://us.imdb.com/Title?0243736</a>

Thanks, montgomery. It really does look dumb. Imagine not being able to get by without sex for 40 days? Pretty pathetic, I'd say!

X.

i personally they are on hook on sex. just like i am a workaholic, if i dont work for 40 days, i will probbaly die, lol

Does anyone here ever get lonely and wish for someone else like them, tonight i made the mistake of talking about my asexuality in a group of friends, some of them just gave me this look, after that they did speak to me, wouldnt have touched me with a ten foot pole. What i was wondering, are there any other people in Sydney who feel the same way and would like to talk some time? I think i am having an identity crisis, i dont want to be alone, but to be with someone i would have to lie to myself, and i am not able to do that. I am an 18yo guy from Sydney, in Aus. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you talk to friends and family about your asexuality?

Does anyone here ever get lonely and wish for someone else like them, tonight i made the mistake of talking about my asexuality in a group of friends, some of them just gave me this look, after that they did speak to me, wouldnt have touched me with a ten foot pole. What i was wondering, are there any other people in Sydney who feel the same way and would like to talk some time? I think i am having an identity crisis, i dont want to be alone, but to be with someone i would have to lie to myself, and i am not able to do that. I am an 18yo guy from Sydney, in Aus. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you talk to friends and family about your asexuality?

Hi firmyau,

I have found that it's good to be wise as to with whom we discuss our deep and private things, whatever they may be.

If you are lonely, talk with us!

X.

Does anyone here ever get lonely and wish for someone else like them, tonight i made the mistake of talking about my asexuality in a group of friends, some of them just gave me this look, after that they did speak to me, wouldnt have touched me with a ten foot pole. What i was wondering, are there any other people in Sydney who feel the same way and would like to talk some time? I think i am having an identity crisis, i dont want to be alone, but to be with someone i would have to lie to myself, and i am not able to do that. I am an 18yo guy from Sydney, in Aus. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you talk to friends and family about your asexuality?

I ususally bring the subject up when people are talking about sex. What I've found is that no one really cares to hear about me. They basically say "yeah whatever" and continue talking about their sex lives.

Does anyone here ever get lonely and wish for someone else like them, tonight i made the mistake of talking about my asexuality in a group of friends, some of them just gave me this look, after that they did speak to me, wouldnt have touched me with a ten foot pole. What i was wondering, are there any other people in Sydney who feel the same way and would like to talk some time? I think i am having an identity crisis, i dont want to be alone, but to be with someone i would have to lie to myself, and i am not able to do that. I am an 18yo guy from Sydney, in Aus. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you talk to friends and family about your asexuality?

Yes, i guess you have a point, we should stick together, it would be nice to have some recognition of our existence though, most people try to tell me that i will grow out of it, or i am just going through a stage, or they could help change my view, etc, ack, no option just to be me, when no-one believes that such a thing is possible.

I don't think recognition is necessary. Nor do I think it's necessary to talk about our asexuality and/or celibacy. In fact, I think the less we talk about it (except with each other, of course), the better. Of course this is just my opinion.

There are homosexuals today who are still in the closet and like it that way. They are heavily criticized by those who have come out. I say the hell with it...to each his own.

X.

X, you raise an interesting point. While there are definitely alot of closeted queer people who don't want to come out, I don't think they're really as happy with it as you say. Its always easier to be yourself than to pass as something else, the people who don't want to come out are probably just don't think it's worth the social consequences.

The same could be said for asexuality. In an ideal world I'm sure that all of us would like to be open about who we are. There are definite disadvantages, as firmyau points out, but there are some pretty strong advantages too. It takes being out to change the situation. This is relevant both from a socio-political visibility standpoint and from a much more personal one. I can say from experience that it's great being out. Ever since I got a group of people comfortable talking about this kind of stuff its been wonderful to just be able to talk and joke about it openly. It seems like there were millions of times when I just had to keep me mouth shut before that now I don't have to.

I'm curious why you say that the less we talk about asexuality the better? Are you saying that the orientation itself should try and stay "closeted"?

X, you raise an interesting point. While there are definitely alot of closeted queer people who don't want to come out, I don't think they're really as happy with it as you say. Its always easier to be yourself than to pass as something else, the people who don't want to come out are probably just don't think it's worth the social consequences.

The same could be said for asexuality. In an ideal world I'm sure that all of us would like to be open about who we are. There are definite disadvantages, as firmyau points out, but there are some pretty strong advantages too. It takes being out to change the situation. This is relevant both from a socio-political visibility standpoint and from a much more personal one. I can say from experience that it's great being out. Ever since I got a group of people comfortable talking about this kind of stuff its been wonderful to just be able to talk and joke about it openly. It seems like there were millions of times when I just had to keep me mouth shut before that now I don't have to.

I'm curious why you say that the less we talk about asexuality the better? Are you saying that the orientation itself should try and stay "closeted"?

you are very wrong, X. queer people are much happier to be out than closeted.

if one is closeted, they probably would like to stay closeted, so they gotta hide from people's eye, ending up staying home all day long, cant even go on a date

if one is out, they can do whenever so they desired; they may experience critism, but people know they act like this, and their critism is more like teasing

if one is closeted, they experience pressures from family and friends. they are often asked "when are you getting married" etc. they get to go on blind dates that friends setup for them, just miserable miserable

myself get a few of my friends to ask when i am going ot date guys; i was like, i aint going to date guys, but i cant tell them

just leave me a pulse on answering my friend's question... most of them know i am "idle", so they wouldnt ask

anyway, closeted is bad...

I realize I'm in the minority with my opinion here. You say that"in an ideal world" everyone would just be what they are, and so on. But we don't live in an ideal world, and I still maintain that there are some gays (maybe by now they're in the minority, I don'tknow) who are happier in the closet, and who honestly believe that they would be unhappier out of the closet. I think they have a right to their belief. Maybe they're not 100% happy, but who is?

Re: the less talk about asexuality (or anything deeply personal) the better, I think it's OK to talk about it among ourselves, but we need to use discretion with regard to people who might not understand or sympathize with us. Blabbing your personal stuff around indiscriminately can open you up to all kinds of mental abuse, which can actually be harmful.

The thing I tend to find most bothersome about most homosexuals is not their sexual practices (which I really couldn't care less about) but rather their "in your face" attitude of flaunting their sexuality and making their private lives very public. I find it hard to make common cause with people who make spectacles of themselves in public by shouting vulgarities while clad in all manner of bizarre up.

I respect those homosexuals who while not "closeted" in the sense of lying and hiding who they are lead quiet, respectable lives like every other normal citizen. I try to be the same way with my asexuality, such that it is. While I feel no need to lie about it, I feel even less compelled to shove it in people's faces and flaunt it. It would be hypocritical of me to advocate "asexual pride parades" because I find the homosexual counterpart so utterly ludicrous and distasteful to common sense.

That is my general complaint about where society is headed overall: the distinction between private and public life has become blurred by an entertainment industry that knows no bounds and a public with no sense of propriety or shame. If people would mind their own business (meaning not prying into other people's lives and ALSO not making their private affairs everyone else's business) the world would be a much better place.

Insofar as asexuality is an "identity," I would prefer not to make the mistakes that make the homosexual movement so offensive and ridiculous. For one thing, since when should a person's sexual practices or lack thereof define them as a person anyway? If I were homo, hetero or whatever sexual, I would still consider myself to be pretty much the same person in that my professional and avocational interests alike wouldn't change.