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Hi and welcome, Citadel...The Antisex site I think has some info about herbal remedies to supress sexual desire, but remember, sexual desire is mental and emotional, not just something your body is "doing" or "wanting"--after all, dead bodies don't have any sexual desire!

X.

Hello X

Thank you for your kind welcome and for the information. Do you have the link for the Antisex site please?

A pleasure to meet you :o)

Citadel

Hi and welcome, Citadel...The Antisex site I think has some info about herbal remedies to supress sexual desire, but remember, sexual desire is mental and emotional, not just something your body is "doing" or "wanting"--after all, dead bodies don't have any sexual desire!

X.

Thanks! But I'm going to do difficult. I liked also your text, so could you also put the picture (with the text on it) back in the photo-section? You know, the text with "the enigmatic state of ..."

Thanks again!

bostongirl10y said:

Indeed, I liked the club better too. And the last message I sent, has disappeared too. In that message, I said that I was looking for the asexual symbol again, which was (I think) in the photo-section. Now, I don't see it anymore. Can anyone say me where I can find it now?

Thanks!

This is my second attempt to reply to this message. ;(

I just added one version of the symbol to our new photos section.

bostongirl10y said:

Indeed, I liked the club better too. And the last message I sent, has disappeared too. In that message, I said that I was looking for the asexual symbol again, which was (I think) in the photo-section. Now, I don't see it anymore. Can anyone say me where I can find it now?

Thanks!

This is my second attempt to reply to this message. ;(

I just added one version of the symbol to our new photos section.

Thanks! But I'm going to do difficult. I liked also your text, so could you also put the picture (with the text on it) back in the photo-section? You know, the text with "the enigmatic state of ..."

Thanks again!

Hi Citadel, Here's the link for the antisex site:

http://www.ktk.ru/~cm/go.htm

I can't remember where the info is about the herbal remedies, but you might have fun reading some of the other stuff, too.

X.

celibbrat said:

bostongirl10y said:

Indeed, I liked the club better too. And the last message I sent, has disappeared too. In that message, I said that I was looking for the asexual symbol again, which was (I think) in the photo-section. Now, I don't see it anymore. Can anyone say me where I can find it now?

Thanks!

This is my second attempt to reply to this message. ;(

I just added one version of the symbol to our new photos section.

Thanks! But I'm going to do difficult. I liked also your text, so could you also put the picture (with the text on it) back in the photo-section? You know, the text with "the enigmatic state of ..."

Thanks again!

I just added that one, too! :o)

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

Many thanks to you :o)

Citadel

Hi Citadel, Here's the link for the antisex site:

http://www.ktk.ru/~cm/go.htm

I can't remember where the info is about the herbal remedies, but you might have fun reading some of the other stuff, too.

X.

typo ...darn :o(

You own your future, as they never could Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

Wow, Citadel, did you write that? It's just wonderful!

X.

Thank you X :o)

It's the first i've written on this subject and, I hope, not the last (Kind of hard to make poetry so personal without making it wail....lol)

Wow, Citadel, did you write that? It's just wonderful!

X.

Can you save it here under files, or something?

Now you've inspired me...how does everybody feel about posting poetry here from the members, related, but not necessarily,to the subject of asexuality?

X.

p.s. I like poetry that "wails" :o)

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And you've inspired me :o)

I've reworked (Tightened) it a bit and uploaded it to the files section. I think it would be great if members could use that section for their own work (I run a poetry site dedicated to the work of myself and others so I guess i'm biased...lol)

As you say - my vote is for it to be a general section (Although keeping it for sexuality related work would make it more thematic i guess....)

Cheers X !

Citadel

Can you save it here under files, or something?

Now you've inspired me...how does everybody feel about posting poetry here from the members, related, but not necessarily,to the subject of asexuality?

X.

p.s. I like poetry that "wails" :o)

And you've inspired me :o)

I've reworked (Tightened) it a bit and uploaded it to the files section. I think it would be great if members could use that section for their own work (I run a poetry site dedicated to the work of myself and others so I guess i'm biased...lol)

As you say - my vote is for it to be a general section (Although keeping it for sexuality related work would make it more thematic i guess....)

Cheers X !

Citadel

Can you save it here under files, or something?

Now you've inspired me...how does everybody feel about posting poetry here from the members, related, but not necessarily,to the subject of asexuality?

X.

p.s. I like poetry that "wails" :o)

Citadel...howzabout putting up the URL of your poetry site, hmmmm???

xxoo X

"...petty thoughts, the masonhood" as in Freemasons?

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

More general - the idea of a society which uses secret rules to bind itself and gain disproportinate advantage within a system (Freemasonsary certainly one example)In this case it refers to coupling and the unspkoen rules that make mating have an overwhelming bias within the sociatal mind-set.

"...petty thoughts, the masonhood" as in Freemasons?

guidecitadel said:

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

More general - the idea of a society which uses secret rules to bind itself and gain disproportinate advantage within a system (Freemasonsary certainly one example)In this case it refers to coupling and the unspkoen rules that make mating have an overwhelming bias within the sociatal mind-set.

"...petty thoughts, the masonhood" as in Freemasons?

guidecitadel said:

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

With pleasure X ... www.citadel-uk.com

My name is Dean Rogers and you will see me amongst others on there..

Regards

Citadel

Citadel...howzabout putting up the URL of your poetry site, hmmmm???

xxoo X

EXCELLENT poem, Dean!! I love it, it is sooo true!!

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

Thank You :o)

EXCELLENT poem, Dean!! I love it, it is sooo true!!

guidecitadel said:

If you trust me, I will take you on a journey Beyond the daylight dreams sold you at birth You will stand naked, accused, without attorney As an outcast from the kinship of the Earth This trial of fire, born by condemnation Will seek to forge a chain within your soul The charge, you reject that copulation Is the most righteous of the common mortals' goals

But you'll smile as the director of the stage Where the baying crowds unite to form the "Scream" The horror of the simple-minded sage With moral hate both comic and obscene You own your future, as they never can Emancipated from the chains of coupling You're beyond such petty thoughts, the masonhood Of the monotone duets they seek to sing

Citadel

Has anything come of that poetry section? I may submit some stuff.

If you trust me, is that the title? It's a great poem. I like.

Hiya, yes that is the title.

As for the poetry section I have heard no objections so far (I may post asexual themed poetry again but in there, so as not to clog the main board)

Dean

Has anything come of that poetry section? I may submit some stuff.

If you trust me, is that the title? It's a great poem. I like.

Just thought I'd throw up an article I wrote. As I say in the article I don't know if there's a point in writing it, I don't know of anyone who thinks that absitnence only education is a good idea. I wrote it mostly becuase I'm trying to articulate a whole wierd set of thoughts I've been having recently that I'll call, for lack of a better term sexual importance theory (which says, essentially, fuck sex.) Anyhoo, thought that this might be good to create discussion..

Asexuals Against Abstinence Ok, so maybe there's little point in writing on a topic which essentially everyone seems to agree on. In my reasonably limited travels I've yet to come across anyone who thinks that Bush's new abstinence only education bill is anything like effective, kosher, or good fun. Still the topic becomes an interesting and somewhat relevant exercise: if this policy is telling kids not to have sex then what do people who ACTUALLY don't have sex think about it. You're friendly neighborhood asexual can no doubt tell you that it's a might trickier and more complicated than it first appears. Let me tell you about not having sex, which should be a reasonably carefree and simple activity (how hard is it to NOT do something?) and not too grievous a task to ask of America's youth. In practice it's time consuming, difficult and horrendously complicated because sex is considered to be really really important. As an asexual I want to do things like have meaningful, intimate relationships that are recognized as such, relationships that will eventually be capable of supporting children. I want to be recognized as mature and empowered, but all of these things become difficult in a society where our notions of intimacy, maturity, empowerment and aesthetics are extremely tied up in our notion of sexuality. Not being sexual is hard work because you have to sit down and disentangle everything, all of the stuff that you want to do that is considered sexual has to be painstakingly extracted. And in the end you find out that sex really isn't that important at all. In fact sex is mostly a means of doing other stuff, one way (but by no means THE way) of expressing intimacy, having fun, or playing games with people. Unfortunately in an environment like highschool where many or most of the models for things like intimacy are in some way sexual asking kids not to have sex is asking a hell of a lot. It would, in my opinion, be extremely beneficial to have a program of sex education that addressed this issue of sexual importance, once which told kids, essentially, to chill the fuck out; one which told kids about the direct implications of sex (there are three of them: orgasms, STDs, and for some people babies, and all three can be reasonably well avoided.) and then advised them to spend their lives worrying about more relevant things. This is a far cry from abstinence only education, which says that sex is REALLY important. So important, in fact, that kids are better off not thinking about it themselves and deferring their decision making to the benevolent governmental Powers That Be. This is awful for anyone (including asexuals) who wants to define their sexuality on their own terms, and it is also transparently bullshit. The government has no say in what highschool students (or anyone) do with their bodies, and they all know it. So all that abstinence only education does is give kids the message that sex is important and then withhold the tools for them to think about it critically. Asexually speaking this is a nightmare; asexual highschool students will be caught up in an environment in violent turmoil over something that they are told is extremely important but are given no personal means of understanding. If abstinence only education does not work for people who were not going to have sex in the first place, then what good is it going to do everybody else?