Haven for the Human Amoeba

I had grown up mostly in North Baldwin, & my mom still lives there. Right now, I am in Levittown. Where are you, now, Stephanie?

Where on Long Island? I grew up in Baldwin and visit at least twice a year.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

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I am from Long Island, NY.

I am FEMALE & ppl think it's weird that I do not like sports. I don't like hunting either.

I never really had a strong sex drive. As I grew older it just faded away, so I guess you could say I grew into my asexuality also. The only problem I really have is the region of the country where I live. People from Alabama aren't all bigots and religious fanatics like the television would have you believe, but anything other than hetrosexuality is highly frowned upon. I can't tell you how many times people I went to school with have asked if I was queer because they never saw me out on dates. It also doesn't help that I don't care for sports or hunting.

Being asexual has given me a great sympathy for GLB people because until recently I thought it was something I had to hide. Now I tell people and usually have to spend the next five minutes trying to explain what asexuality is. Some responses have been: "You're crazy," or "I always knew you were weird."

I usually hit "reply via web post" anyway.

Hello Members,

If you feel you would like to post messages directly to the group from your personal email account send the emails to this address: [email protected]

You must be a member of the group and not be under moderated status in order for your message to show up right away. I un-moderate members who post messages containing asexual content usually after their first message.

Moderator Staci

I completely agree with everything you said, and have often wondered the same thing. But I don't know what can be done about it. There is no one in my area (that I know of) that feels the way I do, so I have no one to commiserate with. I am so isolated, and feel like a freak.

Pam

Hello everyone,

I would like to get some feedback from people in the group on sex & love in romantic relationships.

It seems to me that sex is a major component of most romantic relationships. People claim that they "love" each other but if one partner cannot perform sexually for whatever reason, health or whatever the "love" tends to disappear. Why aren't most humans capble of loving another human being in a romantic way without the act of bumping uglies? Sex has nothing to do with love.

It seems to me that most humans are incredibly superfical in this regard. I think the world would be so much better off if sex were not such a big part of human existance. Outside of using it to continue the human race it has absolutely no purpose.

Gosh, Pam I wish you were open to talking on the phone  as we could commiserate so much better.  I really don't like email, it is so impersonal and you really can never get to know someone by typing back and forth.

I am 54 and have never been married because I don't like sex.  So what the male gender is saying is if you won't put out I won't love you.  Doesn't sound like love to me.

Rene

I completely agree with everything you said, and have often wondered the same thing. But I don't know what can be done about it. There is no one in my area (that I know of) that feels the way I do, so I have no one to commiserate with. I am so isolated, and feel like a freak.

Pam

--- In [email protected]>, "rene789" <rene789@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I would like to get some feedback from people in the group on sex & love in romantic relationships.

It seems to me that sex is a major component of most romantic relationships. People claim that they "love" each other but if one partner cannot perform sexually for whatever reason, health or whatever the "love" tends to disappear. Why aren't most humans capble of loving another human being in a romantic way without the act of bumping uglies? Sex has nothing to do with love.

It seems to me that most humans are incredibly superfical in this regard. I think the world would be so much better off if sex were not such a big part of human existance. Outside of using it to continue the human race it has absolutely no purpose.

me (freewaydog@...) has sent you this page. (email address not verified)

An Open Letter to Asexual Teenagers on HubPages http://hubpages.com/hub/An-Open-Letter-to-Asexual-Teenagers?e-emailhub

Here is an interesting blog entry.

Unsubscribe: http://hubpages.com/unsubscribe/c54691/1c22423 This message is spam: http://hubpages.com/spam/c54691/1c22423 This message is abuse: http://hubpages.com/abuse/c54691/1c22423 HubPages Inc., 95 Minna St., San Francisco CA 94105

They might love you but they might still need sex, so it makes more sense if they marry someone they can have a sexulal relationship with, and keep the platonic friends on the side.

Gosh, Pam I wish you were open to talking on the phone as we could commiserate so much better. I really don't like email, it is so impersonal and you really can never get to know someone by typing back and forth.

I am 54 and have never been married because I don't like sex. So what the male gender is saying is if you won't put out I won't love you. Doesn't sound like love to me.

Rene

I completely agree with everything you said, and have often wondered the same thing. But I don't know what can be done about it. There is no one in my area (that I know of) that feels the way I do, so I have no one to commiserate with. I am so isolated, and feel like a freak.

Pam

--- In [email protected]>, "rene789" <rene789@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I would like to get some feedback from people in the group on sex & love in romantic relationships.

It seems to me that sex is a major component of most romantic relationships. People claim that they "love" each other but if one partner cannot perform sexually for whatever reason, health or whatever the "love" tends to disappear. Why aren't most humans capble of loving another human being in a romantic way without the act of bumping uglies? Sex has nothing to do with love.

It seems to me that most humans are incredibly superfical in this regard. I think the world would be so much better off if sex were not such a big part of human existance. Outside of using it to continue the human race it has absolutely no purpose.

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

If I get married at all, it will be to another asexual. I'm not polyamorous so marrying a sexual person just won't work for me.

I live with my best friend, but she is sexual and will eventually find a romantic partner and move out, so I'm trying to enjoy it while it lasts :P

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

 They might love you but they might still need sex, so it makes more sense if they marry someone they can have a sexulal relationship with, and keep the platonic friends on the side.

----- Original Message -----

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Gosh, Pam I wish you were open to talking on the phone as we could commiserate so much better. I really don't like email, it is so impersonal and you really can never get to know someone by typing back and forth.

I am 54 and have never been married because I don't like sex. So what the male gender is saying is if you won't put out I won't love you. Doesn't sound like love to me.

Rene

On 9 Oct 2010, Pam said:

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Pam <auntpama@...>

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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Sex & Love

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Saturday, October 9, 2010, 1:33 AM

I completely agree with everything you said, and have often wondered the same thing. But I don't know what can be done about it. There is no one in my area (that I know of) that feels the way I do, so I have no one to commiserate with. I am so isolated, and feel like a freak.

Pam

--- In [email protected]>, "rene789"

rene789@... said:

Hello everyone,

I would like to get some feedback from people in the group on sex & love in romantic relationships.

It seems to me that sex is a major component of most romantic relationships. People claim that they "love" each other but if one partner cannot perform sexually for whatever reason, health or whatever the "love" tends to disappear. Why aren't most humans capble of loving another human being in a romantic way without the act of bumping uglies? Sex has nothing to do with love.

It seems to me that most humans are incredibly superfical in this regard. I think the world would be so much better off if sex were not such a big part of human existance. Outside of using it to continue the human race it has absolutely no purpose.

I'm in North Carolina now, in a smsll town called Angier (about 30 min from Raleigh). My parents still live in North Baldwin, about 10 minutes from the LIRR station.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

I had grown up mostly in North Baldwin, & my mom still lives there. Right now, I am in Levittown. Where are you, now, Stephanie?

Where on Long Island? I grew up in Baldwin and visit at least twice a year.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living.

And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

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I am from Long Island, NY.

Hahaha, I feel very similarly. I just don't get sex, sorry. I might think a guy is "hot", meaning I think he's handsome, but I don't want to do anything physical with him. Same with girls.

I'm happy living with a close friend. And I'd be happy in a sexless romantic relationship if I could find one...

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

Yes, I have never had sex & don't want to, I heard it was painful for the female, and as I said, rather gross. I want my own space. I do not understand what is the big deal about sex anyway, why some ppl are so desperate for it! I don't understand these damned "crushes" ppl have on "hot guys"! To me, you've seen 1 guy, you've seen them all! "Oh wow! Brad Pitt! Justin Bieber! Whatever sports player! Whomever!" & I don't see what guys see in girls, either! Sure, I could think someone looks nice, or pretty, but then, I could think that flower is pretty, or that painting is beautiful! Doesn't mean I wanna' have sex w/ them! Sorry, rant over, just sick of being judged by a bunch of ppl who act like snotty-@$$ed teens!

Sue,  I am curious, how old are? Do you spend much time with your kids? I have been celibate for 20 years...I don't tell anyone...it's none of their business. They can't judge you if they don't know. I think if they know you are abstaining they could definitely judge you. People are obsessed with sex, even some women are. I have never understood it, as it is so short lived and considering you can do it yourself, why bother with anyone else.  I always found intercourse pain full and wanted to avoid it. To be honest I hate sex, for a woman it is rather violent.  Rene

Hi,   I am glad that this group has finally become active. I thought it about time to introduce myself. I am Mary and live in western NY, I'm probably the oldest person on this list as I am in my 60s. I sometimes wonder if I'm the world's oldest virgin lol. Anyway hello out there.

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From

Contemplative One

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The Haven

Sent

Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

Yeah, sure, Lady GaGa is about as Asexual as Madonna is,...(PUTS FINGER IN MOUTH, STICKS OUT TONGUE)

Regardless of what that article said, Lady Gaga is not asexual, and she's giving asexuals a bad name (I want to take a ride on your disco stick?- Does that sound asexual??!?!?!)

Mary Hancock said:

the other day on the Early Show a magazine editor who had interviewed Lady GaGa said that Lady GaGa was asexual since she was not interested in selling her sexuality - just her outrageousness.

On 4 Aug 2010, Captain Rand said:

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Captain Rand <cmdrrand@>

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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Still here...

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[email protected]

Date

Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 12:36 PM

Â

I'm still here, I'm just a very boring person. However, I do have a question. Are there any asexual characters being portrayed in the entertainment media, TV, books, anything? I want to see someone stand up like Ellen and say I'm asexual.

A lot of times, sex only has to do w/ power. :P

Hello everyone,

I would like to get some feedback from people in the group on sex & love in romantic relationships.

It seems to me that sex is a major component of most romantic relationships. People claim that they "love" each other but if one partner cannot perform sexually for whatever reason, health or whatever the "love" tends to disappear. Why aren't most humans capble of loving another human being in a romantic way without the act of bumping uglies? Sex has nothing to do with love.

It seems to me that most humans are incredibly superfical in this regard. I think the world would be so much better off if sex were not such a big part of human existance. Outside of using it to continue the human race it has absolutely no purpose.

My mom lives a couple of blocks from the Pathmark.

I'm in North Carolina now, in a smsll town called Angier (about 30 min from Raleigh). My parents still live in North Baldwin, about 10 minutes from the LIRR station.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

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troi_tribble <freewaydog@...>

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Fri, October 8, 2010 7:48:44 PM

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I had grown up mostly in North Baldwin, & my mom still lives there. Right now, I am in Levittown. Where are you, now, Stephanie?

Stephanie Silberstein said:

Where on Long Island? I grew up in Baldwin and visit at least twice a year.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living.

And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

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I am from Long Island, NY.

TOTALLY overrated! Never once had I ever experienced any type of joy or pleasure from it. It was always a chore and I hated it. I too would like to find a man who will love me for me without sex. I'm 47 years old and my dear friends always tell me that when I find the "right" man, things will change. God bless them but it just isn't true; I don't want it nor do I need it. I get more pleasure from sneezing. :) Have a great day everyone! :)

Yes it is very over-rated.  I have always found it to be painfull and kind of violent.  I just wish I could find a man who would love me without it. Â

On 8 Oct 2010, troi_tribble said:

From

troi_tribble <freewaydog@...>

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: checking in

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Friday, October 8, 2010, 10:53 PM

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I was asexual all my life & I think sex is overrated and it grosses me out.

Rene Bataglia said:

Yes it has...what shall we talk about?  I'm curious to know if others have been asxeual all their lives or did they grow into it.  I had a somewhat of a sex drive when I was younger but have none now, that I am 54.  I just think sex is lame and boring.  It's just bumping uglies and a total waste of time.  I'm curious as to how many men are on the group?

On 7 Oct 2010, troi_tribble said:

From

troi_tribble <freewaydog@>

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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] checking in

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[email protected]

Date

Thursday, October 7, 2010, 11:18 PM

Wow, this went from no email to tons of email, like 0 to 60 in no time!

--- In [email protected], "pamela >^,,^<" <c24cats@> wrote:

pamela in SW LA here for roll call! see, theres lots in this group....why dont we all start talking??

My novel Shades of Gay, which is coming out in November, has an asexual character as the protagonist's best friend. sand I'm writing a sequel starring her as the main character.

I like some of Gaga's music and her dedication to LGBTQ rights, but she is not asexual. Whatever magazine writer said that is giving asexuals a bad name.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

Yeah, sure, Lady GaGa is about as Asexual as Madonna is,...(PUTS FINGER IN MOUTH, STICKS OUT TONGUE)

Regardless of what that article said, Lady Gaga is not asexual, and she's giving asexuals a bad name (I want to take a ride on your disco stick?- Does that sound asexual??!?!?!)

Mary Hancock said:

the other day on the Early Show a magazine editor who had interviewed Lady GaGa said that Lady GaGa was asexual since she was not interested in selling her sexuality - just her outrageousness.

On 4 Aug 2010, Captain Rand said:

From

Captain Rand <cmdrrand@>

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Still here...

To

[email protected]

Date

Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 12:36 PM

Â

I'm still here, I'm just a very boring person. However, I do have a question. Are there any asexual characters being portrayed in the entertainment media, TV, books, anything? I want to see someone stand up like Ellen and say I'm asexual.

OMG our parents are probably neighbors. Mine are 4 blocks or so from Pathmark. I went to high school over there.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

My mom lives a couple of blocks from the Pathmark.

I'm in North Carolina now, in a smsll town called Angier (about 30 min from Raleigh). My parents still live in North Baldwin, about 10 minutes from the LIRR

station.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living.

And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

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troi_tribble <freewaydog@...>

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Fri, October 8, 2010 7:48:44 PM

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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Dead group?

I had grown up mostly in North Baldwin, & my mom still lives there. Right now,

I am in Levittown. Where are you, now, Stephanie?

Stephanie Silberstein said:

Where on Long Island? I grew up in Baldwin and visit at least twice a year.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living.

And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

---

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Sent

Thu, October 7, 2010 6:24:51 PM

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I am from Long Island, NY.

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From

Contemplative One

To

The Haven

Sent

Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

Hi Mary,

I'm Rene, 54 living in Denver, but orignally from NY... Ozone Park and Long Island.  I haven't been back there in years and sometimes miss it.

Rene

Hi,   I am glad that this group has finally become active. I thought it about time to introduce myself. I am Mary and live in western NY, I'm probably the oldest person on this list as I am in my 60s. I sometimes wonder if I'm the world's oldest virgin lol. Anyway hello out there.

If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From

Contemplative One

To

The Haven

Sent

Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up.  I am open, but I am sure I am right.  Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....

 If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

----- Original Message -----

From

Stephanie Silberstein

To

[email protected]

Sent

Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:52 AM

Subject

Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

---

From

troi_tribble <freewaydog@...>

To

[email protected]

Sent

Sat, October 9, 2010 10:58:27 AM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Sue McPherson said:

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From

Contemplative One

To

The Haven

Sent

Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

That wasn't the one I got. the one I had was writing from facebook, mentioned this list, and asked me if I wanted to meet him.

I would report the one you got, as it is spam, and the moderator can remove him from the list. I'm not sure if asking someone if they would like to meet is doing anything wrong, however. Just bad judgement, asking me, I guess.

I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up. I am open, but I am sure I am right. Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....



If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From

Contemplative One

To

The Haven

Sent

Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM

Subject

[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?