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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

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I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up.  I am open, but I am sure I am right.  Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....


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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

 If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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Sat, October 9, 2010 10:58:27 AM
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Sue McPherson said:

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

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Contemplative One
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Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

Yes, definetly, and he's a civil engineer to boot!!!!

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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)
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I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up.  I am open, but I am sure I am right.  Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....

From
Sue McPherson <s.a.mcpherson@sympatico.ca>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 5:55:31 PM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

 If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

From
Stephanie Silberstein
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk

From
troi_tribble <freewaydog@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:58:27 AM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Sue McPherson said:

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From
Contemplative One
To
The Haven
Sent
Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

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RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

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Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al. I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us....CheersAl. To: havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com From: cmdrrand@... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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goddessatplay Contemplative One
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For Them, Saying No Is Easy

For Them, Just Saying No Is Easy

By MARY DUENWALD Published: June 9, 2005

BIRDS do it, bees do it. But not necessarily all of them. Among bees the sisters of queens do not engage in sex. And in certain species of birds - Florida scrub jays, for one - some individuals, known as helpers, do not breed but only help the breeders raise their offspring.

But could indifference to sex extend to humans, too? An increasing number of people say yes and offer themselves as proof. They describe themselves as asexual, and they call their condition normal, not the result of confused sexual orientation, a fear of intimacy or a temporary lapse of desire. They would like the world to understand that they can live their entire lives happily without ever having sex....

Read Entire Article Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/fashion/thursdaystyles/09asexual.html

© 2010 The New York Times Company

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lwhite1962 Louise White
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Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al. I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us....CheersAl. To: havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com From: cmdrrand@... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

Hi all.  I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones.  I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations.  I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive.  Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels.  In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses.  I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits.  think of all the time one can spend doing  more productive things!

Louise


From
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havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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paxmoon carolyn moon
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Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al. I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us....CheersAl. To: havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com From: cmdrrand@... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

I think it could be all kinds of different scenarios why we are asexual, but I think for the majority it is just who we are and I agree with the wiring..


From
J A <justify2c@hotmail.com>
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havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sun, October 10, 2010 12:15:44 AM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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stephanie_m_silberstein Stephanie Silberstein
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For Them, Just Saying No Is Easy

By MARY DUENWALD Published: June 9, 2005

BIRDS do it, bees do it. But not necessarily all of them. Among bees the sisters of queens do not engage in sex. And in certain species of birds - Florida scrub jays, for one - some individuals, known as helpers, do not breed but only help the breeders raise their offspring.

But could indifference to sex extend to humans, too? An increasing number of people say yes and offer themselves as proof. They describe themselves as asexual, and they call their condition normal, not the result of confused sexual orientation, a fear of intimacy or a temporary lapse of desire. They would like the world to understand that they can live their entire lives happily without ever having sex....

Read Entire Article Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/fashion/thursdaystyles/09asexual.html

© 2010 The New York Times Company

I'd love to write a self-help book on having an asexual relationship. Of course first I'd have to BE in a relationship.

Does my friendship with my best friend/adopted sister/roommate count even though we don't consider it romantic?

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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Sun, October 10, 2010 11:50:00 PM
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] For Them, Saying No Is Easy

For Them, Just Saying No Is Easy

By MARY DUENWALD Published: June 9, 2005

BIRDS do it, bees do it. But not necessarily all of them. Among bees the sisters of queens do not engage in sex. And in certain species of birds - Florida scrub jays, for one - some individuals, known as helpers, do not breed but only help the breeders raise their offspring.

But could indifference to sex extend to humans, too? An increasing number of people say yes and offer themselves as proof. They describe themselves as asexual, and they call their condition normal, not the result of confused sexual orientation, a fear of intimacy or a temporary lapse of desire. They would like the world to understand that they can live their entire lives happily without ever having sex....

Read Entire Article Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/fashion/thursdaystyles/09asexual.html

© 2010 The New York Times Company

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stephanie_m_silberstein Stephanie Silberstein
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Hi all.  I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones.  I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations.  I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive.  Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels.  In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses.  I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits.  think of all the time one can spend doing  more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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lwhite1962 Louise White
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Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

A woman's sex drive is driven by estrogen.  That's why when women go through menopause and their ovaries stop producing estrogen, their sex drive decreases.  A lot of women will go on hormone replacement therapy with estrogen so they can get their drive back.  otherwise, they will have no interest in sex at all.  Your adrenal glands will still produce a small amount of testosterone though.  For men, it's testosterone that drives sexual desire.

Louise


From
Stephanie Silberstein <stephanie_m_silberstein@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sun, October 10, 2010 9:21:33 PM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all.  I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones.  I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations.  I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive.  Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels.  In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses.  I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits.  think of all the time one can spend doing  more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@hotmail.com>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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A woman's sex drive is driven by estrogen.  That's why when women go through menopause and their ovaries stop producing estrogen, their sex drive decreases.  A lot of women will go on hormone replacement therapy with estrogen so they can get their drive back.  otherwise, they will have no interest in sex at all.  Your adrenal glands will still produce a small amount of testosterone though.  For men, it's testosterone that drives sexual desire.

Louise


From
Stephanie Silberstein <stephanie_m_silberstein@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sun, October 10, 2010 9:21:33 PM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all.  I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones.  I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations.  I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive.  Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels.  In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses.  I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits.  think of all the time one can spend doing  more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@hotmail.com>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

It's not hormonally based. I'm asexual. Period.

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE. Two separate things.

I'm also gender neutral but only say woman for sake of convenience, so what works for "women" is rather irrelevant.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 1:22:44 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

A woman's sex drive is driven by estrogen. That's why when women go through menopause and their ovaries stop producing estrogen, their sex drive decreases. A lot of women will go on hormone replacement therapy with estrogen so they can get their drive back. otherwise, they will have no interest in sex at all. Your adrenal glands will still produce a small amount of testosterone though. For men, it's testosterone that drives sexual desire.

Louise


From
Stephanie Silberstein <stephanie_m_silberstein@yahoo.com>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sun, October 10, 2010 9:21:33 PM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
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RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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suemcp001 Sue McPherson
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

I would say that society has something to do with it - one's experiences or the expectations put on us by our culture.

It has been argued that homosexuality is hard-wired within the person - in the genes - and maybe it feels that way to some people but not everyone. And there's no proof of that. Likewise with asexuality.

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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?


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suemcp001 Sue McPherson
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] For Them, Saying No Is Easy

Mr. Jay acknowledged that some asexuals have spent - or will spend - some time being sexual. "We'll have people in AVEN who get into a relationship where suddenly they enjoy sex, and we have many people who say they used to enjoy sex but really not anymore," he said.

Good article!

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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] For Them, Saying No Is Easy

For Them, Just Saying No Is Easy

By MARY DUENWALD Published: June 9, 2005

BIRDS do it, bees do it. But not necessarily all of them. Among bees the sisters of queens do not engage in sex. And in certain species of birds - Florida scrub jays, for one - some individuals, known as helpers, do not breed but only help the breeders raise their offspring.

But could indifference to sex extend to humans, too? An increasing number of people say yes and offer themselves as proof. They describe themselves as asexual, and they call their condition normal, not the result of confused sexual orientation, a fear of intimacy or a temporary lapse of desire. They would like the world to understand that they can live their entire lives happily without ever having sex....

Read Entire Article Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/fashion/thursdaystyles/09asexual.html

© 2010 The New York Times Company

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I think it could be all kinds of different scenarios why we are asexual, but I think for the majority it is just who we are and I agree with the wiring..


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RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


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Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

Yes, I think it is more complex than  just hormones.  I had mine checked a few years ago and my estrogen was normal.

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Monday, October 11, 2010, 4:14 AM

I think it could be all kinds of different scenarios why we are asexual, but I think for the majority it is just who we are and I agree with the wiring..

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RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.  I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.

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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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rene789 Rene Bataglia
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Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al. I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us....CheersAl. To: havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com From: cmdrrand@... Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000 Subject: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

Hi Al, nice to meet you.  Rene in Denver, CO, 54

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RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...
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Date
Sunday, October 10, 2010, 5:15 AM

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.  I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.

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Date
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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I would say that society has something to do with it - one's experiences or the expectations put on us by our culture.

It has been argued that homosexuality is hard-wired within the person - in the genes - and maybe it feels that way to some people but not everyone. And there's no proof of that. Likewise with asexuality.

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Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:15 PM
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?


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I agree Sue. I think at least for me it may be at least in part cultural. I was raised by 2 parents who were strict and you saved yourself til marriage. In my late teens and 20s I dated and had crushes on guys but never let it get to far. I was really ready with one man whom I loved deeply but because of circumstances (his health) it never got to that. I do find it interesting that other than 2 guys most of the men I've been attracted to have been gay... now figure that out. In my 30s-60s I was too career minded and also was busy raising an adopted daughter to even think about guys. Now I'm just not attracted to anyone.. at least I havent been for quite awhile.

On , Sue McPherson said:
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Date
Monday, October 11, 2010, 7:17 AM

I would say that society has something to do with it - one's experiences or the expectations put on us by our culture.

It has been argued that homosexuality is hard-wired within the person - in the genes - and maybe it feels that way to some people but not everyone. And there's no proof of that. Likewise with asexuality.

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<havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com>
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group?  It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question.  I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual.  Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?


Yahoo! Groups Links


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suemcp001 Sue McPherson
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

And you're probably in a position - economically - not to have to give in if a man shows interest. That's a lot to do with it too. Men often seek out vulnerable women.

Heterosexuality is our cultural norm - as is getting married and having kids.And the sex part is worse, since women's liberation.

I can still look at men and see them as attractive - as have good looks, or a nice looking body or personality - or women, for that matter - yet not be 'sexually' attracted to them. That's where a lot of misunderstandings come in, I think. They think we want something more, or is it that culturally, they expect it from us.

The Commonwealth divers and swimmers are especially nice to watch!

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Monday, October 11, 2010 12:29 PM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

I agree Sue. I think at least for me it may be at least in part cultural. I was raised by 2 parents who were strict and you saved yourself til marriage. In my late teens and 20s I dated and had crushes on guys but never let it get to far. I was really ready with one man whom I loved deeply but because of circumstances (his health) it never got to that. I do find it interesting that other than 2 guys most of the men I've been attracted to have been gay... now figure that out. In my 30s-60s I was too career minded and also was busy raising an adopted daughter to even think about guys. Now I'm just not attracted to anyone.. at least I havent been for quite awhile.

On , Sue McPherson said:
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Date
Monday, October 11, 2010, 7:17 AM

I would say that society has something to do with it - one's experiences or the expectations put on us by our culture.

It has been argued that homosexuality is hard-wired within the person - in the genes - and maybe it feels that way to some people but not everyone. And there's no proof of that. Likewise with asexuality.

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<havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com>
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?


Yahoo! Groups Links


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If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

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Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:52 AM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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Sat, October 9, 2010 10:58:27 AM
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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Sue McPherson said:

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From
Contemplative One
To
The Haven
Sent
Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

That guy is full of $#!%!!!!

Sue McPherson said:

If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

From
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To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

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That wasn't the one I got. the one I had was writing from facebook, mentioned this list, and asked me if I wanted to meet him.

I would report the one you got, as it is spam, and the moderator can remove him from the list. I'm not sure if asking someone if they would like to meet is doing anything wrong, however. Just bad judgement, asking me, I guess.

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Saturday, October 09, 2010 7:02 PM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up. I am open, but I am sure I am right. Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....


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Sat, October 9, 2010 5:55:31 PM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)



If he is getting our names off this group he's probably thinking, as men will, that all a man has to do is show his pic and be a bit suggestive and we won't be able to resist.

From
Stephanie Silberstein
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I got a message like that too here on Yahoo. Ugh.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:58:27 AM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Oh yeah, I wonder if it's the same guy I got a message from? Eerie, it sounded like he wanted to hook up w/ me,....

Sue McPherson said:

Yesterday I received a msg from someone on facebook who seemed to know I was a member of this group. I don't like receiving invitations (propositions?) in this manner - through facebook. So, please don't send any more.

From
Contemplative One
To
The Haven
Sent
Friday, October 08, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

Hello Members,

In the past and still today, spammers join Yahoo groups (such as this one) and frequently post sexually inappropriate messages. In an effort to have the real members of the group avoid such explicit spam, all new members who join have their messages moderated, until the content can be determined acceptable and appropriate for the group.

So very sorry if this causes inconvenience on the part of the serious new members, but it is the only way to make sure the group is not inadvertently spammed with x-rated postings.

Staci

I got that b@$tard from FB too! >:(

Sue McPherson said:

That wasn't the one I got. the one I had was writing from facebook, mentioned this list, and asked me if I wanted to meet him.

I would report the one you got, as it is spam, and the moderator can remove him from the list. I'm not sure if asking someone if they would like to meet is doing anything wrong, however. Just bad judgement, asking me, I guess.

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To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Re: Moderated Group Messages (Where Is My Message?)

I think he is trying to do a scam - the moment he said he was working in Africa a red flag went up. I am open, but I am sure I am right. Yeah, he'll say 'oh I love you and by the way there is a 3.5 million dollar trust fund I am trying to get from my abusive uncle.....

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Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
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Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

I think when we were 6, it was called, "Boys have the cooties"! LOL

Stephanie Silberstein said:

Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


From
Louise White <lwhite1962@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Mon, October 11, 2010 12:07:48 AM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


From
J A <justify2c@...>
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Sat, October 9, 2010 10:15:44 PM
Subject
RE: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
From
cmdrrand@...
Date
Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:15:40 +0000
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

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And you're probably in a position - economically - not to have to give in if a man shows interest. That's a lot to do with it too. Men often seek out vulnerable women.

Heterosexuality is our cultural norm - as is getting married and having kids.And the sex part is worse, since women's liberation.

I can still look at men and see them as attractive - as have good looks, or a nice looking body or personality - or women, for that matter - yet not be 'sexually' attracted to them. That's where a lot of misunderstandings come in, I think. They think we want something more, or is it that culturally, they expect it from us.

The Commonwealth divers and swimmers are especially nice to watch!

From
bopopessa
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Sent
Monday, October 11, 2010 12:29 PM
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

I agree Sue. I think at least for me it may be at least in part cultural. I was raised by 2 parents who were strict and you saved yourself til marriage. In my late teens and 20s I dated and had crushes on guys but never let it get to far. I was really ready with one man whom I loved deeply but because of circumstances (his health) it never got to that. I do find it interesting that other than 2 guys most of the men I've been attracted to have been gay... now figure that out. In my 30s-60s I was too career minded and also was busy raising an adopted daughter to even think about guys. Now I'm just not attracted to anyone.. at least I havent been for quite awhile.

On , Sue McPherson said:
From
Sue McPherson <s.a.mcpherson@...>
Subject
Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...
To
havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com
Date
Monday, October 11, 2010, 7:17 AM

I would say that society has something to do with it - one's experiences or the expectations put on us by our culture.

It has been argued that homosexuality is hard-wired within the person - in the genes - and maybe it feels that way to some people but not everyone. And there's no proof of that. Likewise with asexuality.

From
"cmdrrand" <cmdrrand@...>
To
<havenforthehumanamoeba@yahoogroups.com>
Sent
Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject
[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?


Yahoo! Groups Links


Yahoo! Groups Links

Well, when I was just on my cruise, I saw a Vegas style show w/ the showgirls wearing thong-type bottoms & NOTHING but a string to cover their @$$es!!!! >:( Got so turned off I needed to leave! (BARF!)

Sue McPherson said:

And you're probably in a position - economically - not to have to give in if a man shows interest. That's a lot to do with it too. Men often seek out vulnerable women.

Heterosexuality is our cultural norm - as is getting married and having kids.And the sex part is worse, since women's liberation.

I can still look at men and see them as attractive - as have good looks, or a nice looking body or personality - or women, for that matter - yet not be 'sexually' attracted to them. That's where a lot of misunderstandings come in, I think. They think we want something more, or is it that culturally, they expect it from us.

The Commonwealth divers and swimmers are especially nice to watch!

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jisincla Jim Sinclair
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Re: [Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

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Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

On , cmdrrand said:

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Good question. Anybody got any statistics about that? Most "variant" sexualities are more common among men, or at least are reported to be.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

I don't think bad experiences cause people to become asexual. There are many, many people who have difficulty expressing their sexuality as a result of bad experiences, but their sexuality is still there. I think asexual people are just wired that way.

J8

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It's not hormonally based. I'm asexual. Period.

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE. Two separate things.

I'm also gender neutral but only say woman for sake of convenience, so what works for "women" is rather irrelevant.

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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A woman's sex drive is driven by estrogen. That's why when women go through menopause and their ovaries stop producing estrogen, their sex drive decreases. A lot of women will go on hormone replacement therapy with estrogen so they can get their drive back. otherwise, they will have no interest in sex at all. Your adrenal glands will still produce a small amount of testosterone though. For men, it's testosterone that drives sexual desire.

Louise


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Well I have higher testosterone than most women and people keep telling me that I should get on testosterone to try to make myself sexual. LOL!

I don't think it's hormones, although that can certainly affect some people's sex DRIVE. Asexuality is innate, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. I've known I was asexual since I was six but didn't have a word for it.

Stephanie

I know you cannot live on hope alone, but without hope life is not worth living. And you... and you... and you... gotta give 'em hope. - Harvey Milk


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Hi all. I'm a biologist who has studied many organisms and have found that sexual desire is really controlled by hormones. I think we are all varying biochemical conglomerations. I think those of us with low testosterone or estrogen levels simply don't have the biochemical make up for a sex drive. Or for some it's a weak sex drive, depending on the levels. In essence, it's biological and not necessarily the result of trauma or neuroses. I think it benefits any group of organisms to have a few in there who are not constantly preoccupied with sexual pursuits. think of all the time one can spend doing more productive things!

Louise


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Hello all. I'm another guy in the group. I'm from Sydney, Australia, 39. Just call me Al.

I personally believe that asexuality is a result of how God wired us.... Cheers Al.


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[Haven for the Human Amoeba] Just curious...

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8

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On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8

All humans are sexual.  Us asexuals don't turn the volume knob as high as most do.


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On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8

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All humans are sexual.  Us asexuals don't turn the volume knob as high as most do.


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On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8

On , carolyn moon said:

All humans are sexual.

I beg to differ! How are you defining "sexual" and how do you know that "all humans" are sexual? Are you saying I'm not human, or that I'm really sexual and don't know it?!

Us asexuals don't turn the volume knob as high as most do.

I don't appear to have such a knob.

J8

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On , cmdrrand said:

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Good question. Anybody got any statistics about that? Most "variant" sexualities are more common among men, or at least are reported to be.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

I don't think bad experiences cause people to become asexual. There are many, many people who have difficulty expressing their sexuality as a result of bad experiences, but their sexuality is still there. I think asexual people are just wired that way.

J8

A study published by the New Scientist magazine in October, 2004 estimated that 1% of the human population is asexual, and confirmed the existence of asexuality in both humans and other animals.

Here's a paper chock full of stats.

http://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol23/18/23-18.pdf


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On , cmdrrand said:

Am I the only guy in the group? It makes me wonder if asexuality is more common among women.

Good question. Anybody got any statistics about that? Most "variant" sexualities are more common among men, or at least are reported to be.

Another question. I have OCD and a speech impediment and I've often wondered if this contributed to my being asexual. Do you think it's possible a bad, embarrassing, experience could cause someone to become asexual, or is it just the way God wired us?

I don't think bad experiences cause people to become asexual. There are many, many people who have difficulty expressing their sexuality as a result of bad experiences, but their sexuality is still there. I think asexual people are just wired that way.

J8

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On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8

I believe it was determined over at AVEN.

Heather


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On , Stephanie Silberstein said:

Being asexual means not having sexual ATTRACTION, not necessarily no sex DRIVE.

Who determined that definition?

Is there then a different word for those of us who have no sex DRIVE?

J8


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